Re: Rules???? : Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:02 pm  

cougarmania_1978 wrote:

One simple sentence,

Look at Australia

Haven't we been doing that for the last 30 years though? And as we move one step forward they do also, so we're the still the same distance behind.

I'd rather see us innovate rather than immitate.

Re: Rules???? : Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:41 pm  

Stealth Comic wrote:

Haven't we been doing that for the last 30 years though? And as we move one step forward they do also, so we're the still the same distance behind.

I'd rather see us innovate rather than immitate.

One part of the problem I feel is the quality of the competition in the respective countries. In the NRL, the competition to me seems far more open with different teams challenging for honours each year. In SL it's one of 4 every year. You are right though, when we think we've closed the gap we get a rude awakening and realise it's widened if anything. I think the RFL's expansion plans do tend to work in conflict with our International aspirations.

Re: Rules???? : Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:51 pm  

Slight variation to questions posed but its about rules so here goes.
As most may know the Scorpions have recently signed a deal with wigan and Dave Clark is thei4 coach although paid by wigan, and i just read they have access to 5 players via dual registration is 5 the standard rule set by rfl.

Put one side the issue of feeder clubs. I am not sure on the limits.

Re: Rules???? : Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:57 am  

Mr. Dominance, your comment to me seems twaddle as I do believe all the talk this year was about 2 teams and did either of them win the main prize? Just because the champions have breske crowned before did not make them an obvious choice for old trafford, your comment = no logic.

Re: Rules???? : Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:44 am  

cougarmania_1978 wrote:

Mr. Dominance, your comment to me seems twaddle as I do believe all the talk this year was about 2 teams and did either of them win the main prize? Just because the champions have breske crowned before did not make them an obvious choice for old trafford, your comment = no logic.

Thanks again for your reasoned argument and your frank view on my opinion. That is just my view which differs to yours, however, I am mature enough to respect that.

Haven't St Helens appeared in the last 4 or 5 grand finals. Leeds then won 4 of the last 5. My view is the NRL is a more open competition. You obviously disagree, fine......................

Re: Rules???? : Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:36 pm  

but where does your view come from as ive kept an eye on every team this year and alot of results to me are shocks and show that the super league is an open competition, and yes saints in last 5 finals and how many have they won shows me its far more open than you would care to imagine.

Re: Rules???? : Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:26 pm  

cougarmania_1978 wrote:

but where does your view come from as ive kept an eye on every team this year and alot of results to me are shocks and show that the super league is an open competition, and yes saints in last 5 finals and how many have they won shows me its far more open than you would care to imagine.

In the NRL this season there have been 17 games where the margin of victory has been 30 points or more.

In the Super League this season there have been 54 games where the margin of victory has been 30 points or more.

In the NRL this season there was 1 game where the margin of victory was 50 points or greater.

In the Super League this season there were 10 games where the margin of victory was 50 points or greater. Warrington were the winning team in 6 of these games.

I think this safely suggests that the NRL is a vastly more competitive league than Super League. And that the difference between the best teams and the weaker teams in Super League is vast. Our best players are not getting competitive games week in, week out, unless they happen to play down under.

Re: Rules???? : Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:11 pm  

Wwhhhooooossssshhhh!

Re: Rules???? : Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:28 pm  

Stealth Comic wrote:

In the NRL this season there have been 17 games where the margin of victory has been 30 points or more.

In the Super League this season there have been 54 games where the margin of victory has been 30 points or more.

In the NRL this season there was 1 game where the margin of victory was 50 points or greater.

In the Super League this season there were 10 games where the margin of victory was 50 points or greater. Warrington were the winning team in 6 of these games.

I think this safely suggests that the NRL is a vastly more competitive league than Super League. And that the difference between the best teams and the weaker teams in Super League is vast. Our best players are not getting competitive games week in, week out, unless they happen to play down under.

i do believe the debate was one of an open competiton and yes i your right on the results front there is a massive difference but what was that comment oh thats right warrington were in 6 of them games,oh the same warrington that made it to the grand final ? oh no wait they didnt make it that far, this showing it is an open competition.

Re: Rules???? : Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:54 pm  

cougarmania_1978 wrote:

i do believe the debate was one of an open competiton and yes i your right on the results front there is a massive difference but what was that comment oh thats right warrington were in 6 of them games,oh the same warrington that made it to the grand final ? oh no wait they didnt make it that far, this showing it is an open competition.

How many team have won the Super League Grand Final since it's inception?

How many teams have made the Super League Grand Final in the last 5 years?

How many teams have made the Super League Grand final since it's inception?

How many teams have played in Super League since it's inception?

Answer these simple questions and you will realise that Super League is not a wide open competition where any team can possibly win it. Despite a salary cap in place which in theory should make the competition open, there are only 5 or 6 teams, less than half the league, that are capable of spending all of it and funnily enough these are the perennial contenders.

Just because Warrington lost at home to Leeds in a one off playoff game does not meant the competition is open.