Re: Capitulation! : Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:51 pm  

Like Stealth says capitulation.

Taking nothing away from Batley they took their chances very well.

Semi Tadulala struggled in the centres, he did not get any decent ball in space and defensivly he was at six`s and sevens. Bloke near me says he needed to pull his socks up

Obst had a very good game but not enough runners coming off him with any purpose.

We were in control in the first half but did not put the game to bed i think Batley were in our 20 maybe 4 times at the most.

JD looked strong think he needs to play in the centres and move ST to the wing.

Danny Jones! Kicked far too early and did not take the ball to the line and try to commit defenders.

All the Props put in good stints, when the grounds get harder think Korki will come to the fore.

I think we look like we will be a good dry weather footballing side.

I was very impressed to say it was our first serious run out and at times we played some decent stuff, just the players who you thought would penetrate struggled in the conditions.

I am sure Guess who will be questioning which game i was at!

Re: Capitulation! : Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:44 pm  

I think it's all been said in the above posts , great game till the last 20 minutes then fell apart , some fine tuning then i think results will come.
WELL PLAYED COUGARS !!!!

Re: Capitulation! : Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:03 am  

Whingers Neighbour wrote:

I am sure Guess who will be questioning which game i was at!

Why would i do that?

Re: Capitulation! : Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:11 am  

Dominance wrote:

Quite what? or quiet?

Quiet as in, he didnt appear to be organising the attack. In the last 20 the game needed grabbing by the scruff of the neck.
I would have expected him to do this.

Re: Capitulation! : Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:13 am  

I agree with most of what's been said, we blew it! - the big plus is we have improved every game, have pressure for positions and it looks like there is more to come. Batley have played at this level for a few years we have to make the jump to playing with intensity for 80 mins not just 65.

They will be very pleased with their win, but if I were a Batley fan I would be less than pleased with Kears tactics. They have gone from a free flowing, hard hitting rugby playing team to spoilers. Some may disagree, but I simply don't like that style of rugby.

A tough next game, will be interesting to see how JD handles it.

Re: Capitulation! : Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:42 am  

That's tough. We were never free flowing, in fact under KH we tended to wear teams down rather than cut them to pieces. It was one of the complaints under KH that we did not go for it when we seemed to have teams there for the taking.
As for spoiling, nothing more than sour grapes I think.
You have more players who have played at a higher level than us and should be able as a team be able to cope with this level. Semi T was pretty anonymous yesterday and had little impact on the game. JD played well but I wonder if the pressure of coaching at this level and leading his team might be a bit too much this season. RB was only ok, how did he win the MOM, and SO led well but struggled in the second half I think. I could go on about your big name players!
I would also be worried that you had so much possession during the first half and first 20 of the second that you should have been out of sight. The title of this thread is very apt, your boys looked knackered with 20 to go! Not good.
We were not very good at all yesterday, yet we still won!
Good luck for the rest of the season, I hope you thrive and enjoy this level, it's become an exciting division with lots of shocks to be had.

Re: Capitulation! : Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:47 am  

distantdog wrote:

As for spoiling, nothing more than sour grapes I think.

What has the truth, got to do with sour grapes?

Re: Capitulation! : Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:49 am  

distantdog wrote:

As for spoiling, nothing more than sour grapes I think.

Not sour grapes at all, congratulations on your victory.

It's my opinion, which I'm entitled to - you spoiled plain and simple. It got you a victory so once again well done, but it's not the sort of rugby I want to watch.

Re: Capitulation! : Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:00 am  

I am interested to know exactly what we did that would be considered spoiling. I thought defensively we were pretty good yesterday if that's what you mean. Oh and I never said you were not entitled to an opinion, feel free to express it.

Re: Capitulation! : Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:20 am  

Some of these comments on 'spoiling tactics' and 'dirty play' are reminiscent of remarks made by Cougars fans in the mid-90's when our team of free transfers used to beat your expensive big names at both Cougar Park and Mount Pleasant. Come on, at least wait until your side are at the top end of the league before starting with this tripe. As for the 'turned from a free flowing side into a bunch of spoilers' rubbish, did you ever watch us under Harrison???!!! We played some of the most negative, unattractive rugby I've ever seen at Batley during that period. Although it was successful, and is what makes Harrison a good coach, we were massively boring to watch at times.
Oh, and finally, thanks for the heavily-edited match highlights on Youtube - a real 'video nasty'. Some of your fans seem to have what I like to call 'St.Helens syndrome', screaming vehemently for an offence every other second. At one stage I heard cries for 'offside', 'high tackle' and 'holding down' all within a single play.