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Re: Mike smith - league express : Tue May 15, 2012 12:02 pm  
Looks like the revolution been nipped in the bud,shame rules is rules though. lol
Looking round the other sites before the admin pulled the plugged looked like there were signs of a proper debate opening up,hope you can sort something out boxweir,and get the message out there,but got a feeling it wont be on this forum.
Oh well not to worry there another season ticket offer out there now,so the usual suspects will be declaring open season AGAIN on Mr Fawcett, READY,AIM FIRE,
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Re: Mike smith - league express : Tue May 15, 2012 12:40 pm  
shaunw78 wrote:
Looks like the revolution been nipped in the bud,shame rules is rules though. lol
Looking round the other sites before the admin pulled the plugged looked like there were signs of a proper debate opening up,hope you can sort something out boxweir,and get the message out there,but got a feeling it wont be on this forum.


Copyright law, is copyright law. If someone breaks it this site gets into trouble.

No one is trying to stop debate on this subject. people can discuss the topic all they want there cannot post the whole of the article.

So please carry on.
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Re: Mike smith - league express : Tue May 15, 2012 12:53 pm  
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Re: Mike smith - league express : Tue May 15, 2012 12:54 pm  
guess who wrote:
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Re: Mike smith - league express : Wed May 16, 2012 10:16 am  
Trying to arrange for Yorkshire Radio to debate this issues on their Rugby League show on Thursday night 6pm to 7.20pm.
Fingers crossed that we can get this aired and a ground swell of support for promotion and relegation. Listen if you can before going to the game.
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Re: Mike smith - league express : Fri May 18, 2012 7:25 am  
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I have checked with the admins of the site.
There was a problem with spamming sites and that the article was posted in full. With no link to it.
These two are not allowed.

No problem with boxweirs posts as such just the way this was done.

If boxweir is reading this then please send a email to support.rlfans.com and it can be all sorted out.

Jim.


A quick message on behalf of boxweir to Guess Who , He has emailed the admins 3 times and had no joy :FRUSRATED: Any suggestions for him? cheers
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Re: Mike smith - league express : Fri May 18, 2012 9:14 am  
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A quick message on behalf of boxweir to Guess Who , He has emailed the admins 3 times and had no joy :FRUSRATED: Any suggestions for him? cheers


Hiya.

I have just put a post in the admin/mod section about this.
As soon as i hear anything i will pass it on.

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Re: Mike smith - league express : Fri May 18, 2012 6:07 pm  
Hi boxweir.

Sorry for the delay.

If you follow this link it will be sorted out. It may take a day or two seeing as its the weekend.

http://support.rlfans.com/index.php
Hi boxweir.

Sorry for the delay.

If you follow this link it will be sorted out. It may take a day or two seeing as its the weekend.

http://support.rlfans.com/index.php
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Re: Mike smith - league express : Sat May 19, 2012 1:46 pm  
Hi all it's boxweir, firstly thanks for trying to help guess who but the link you gave me was what I did on Tuesday and since then I have sent 4 e-mails explaining my side and asking for an explanation as to why they have blocked me and I still haven't heard anything. Mean while I have registered under the exact same name and contact details as my previous username the only difference been the username I am using now and they have activated me :THINK:

I personally think we have rattled someone's cage because when I posted on all the clubs forums everybody was talking about it and what a great article it was and how everyone nearly agreed that the franchise system in place is a joke and clearly isn't working as it should especially the super league clubs. The points made about spamming sites is rubbish because the amount of forums that I went on and there were the same stuff posted through out such as charity stuff, well isn't that spamming. The point made about copyright is wrong as we have had full permission from mike smith and league express to use it and so on, this isn't a pop at you guess who so please don't think that but it just seems someone doesn't want this debate starting because if it built momentum and clubs started to get on board with it then where would it take us, probably to a place someone doesn't want it to go.
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Re: Mike smith - league express : Sat May 19, 2012 2:25 pm  
This article is posted in full on Totalrl.com. There are several threads on there about p and r and franchises. There is definitely a debate going on throughout the game re the ring fencing of SL. One fact that has emerged is, asMike Smith has pointed out in his article, that when Sky first came along, The RFL was bypassed and the SL organisation signed the contract with Sky and has exclusive rights to dish out the money as they see fit. The original SL crew was a backroom meeting of the big clubs and the whole game was highjacked by them.

My opinion is that the SL is too small. They need to increase the number of teams in it and the top championship teams need to be allowed in if they meet the necessary criteria. The RFL need to speak to Sky before the next contract about getting a bigger deal for an extended SL. SL has been ringfenced and expansion or P and r to it has been denied because of the present teams being in charge of the cash from Sky and refusing to share it out with more teams.

If they will not expand SL then more cash needs to be flowing downwards to the Championships. With more TV sports channels out there than previously, Sky, ESPn, BBC, al Jazheera more TV money should be available if a concerted, coherent strategy is adopted by the game to negotiate with the TV companys.

When the CC1 is expanded next year, in theory the lower leagues should have enough votes to outvote the SL clubs at the RFL but the money will still be controlled by SL. No one wants the full story to be re hashed as to what went on at the start of SL because it was all so underhand and no real chance to consider the whole implications of the deal was given to the clubs. They were co erced into voting for the deal with the threat that if it wasnt agreed to right away the offer would be withdrawn. I am not so sure that Sky had demanded that or if the SL backroom cabal pushed it through.
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