Re: Why Nigel Bondswell was replaced : Mon May 21, 2012 5:31 pm  

Nigel,

Why do i get the impression that you are trying to provoke an argument with me when I am clearly on your side. I did read your post very carefully - please return the favour.

We can spend all day arguing over what words mean. As I have said there is NOTHING in your original post which I disagree with. Why are you being pedantic about whether or not you can pass or fail a CRB check. Most people are aware of the need and scope of CRB checks and they understand the terms "pass" and "fail". It's an everyday term. As far as everyone else on here is concerned - you failed to pass a CRB check.

My question, in your favour, asks "why wasn't the correct procedure followed when you were appointed". If there was a "potential" problem with your credentials, should this have not been picked up much earlier. What you are saying (and I am casting no aspersions here) is that you were allowed to practice physiotherapy on young men without any background checks being made.

That is a critisism of the Club and not you.

Re: Why Nigel Bondswell was replaced : Mon May 21, 2012 5:45 pm  

View from the full back wrote:

Nigel,

Given the facts as I know them, you were not finished because the Club is in serious financial difficulties, it appears that you were finished ....

Because you have had to constantly badger your employer to be paid and I don't think you are the only one in that boat.
Because you eventually reported them to the RFL.

ilkleycougar wrote:

The 2nd paragraph contradicts the 1st.

You might think so - I don't. exceeding overdraft limits or having temporary cashflow problems is NOT a sign of serious financial difficulties

ilkleycougar wrote:

It happens in business when you have exhausted one supplier's patience you then seek an alternative who doesn't know your payment history and you seek extended credit from them.

I couldn't agree more

Re: Why Nigel Bondswell was replaced : Mon May 21, 2012 6:11 pm  

I personally know of a few people who 1 used to volunteet their services and another who used to work at Cougar Park. The volunteer put a hell of a lot of time in unpaid not just at 1st team games but at reserves before and after the match too. The volunteer then had 1 week off to come back to someone else doing the job and the club making it out that equipment had been tampered with. This certain individual put so much time and effort into the club unpaid and the club absolutly s**t on them. He was pushed out.

The second person i know off was an employee and like Nigel wasnt getting paid and didnt get paid for months. Under the contract this employee had a lot more hours were been put in and the club still didnt pay the wage. The club even started employing volunteers to do the job well still employed and this individual only found out through another person. This was the final straw and this individual quit. The club then realised what a good job had been done and when they didnt have anyone at the start of the season they asked the individual to come back even though he still hadnt been paid.

Nigel is not the first honest person to want the club to do well and put in a really good job either Employee or Volunteer and he wont be the last. I know the club are stuggleing for money but it is no excuse to treat people badly and look a gift horse in the mouth. I have no doubt that the team we have now has had an effect financially on the club more than before.

I just hope You have made the right decison Cougars and it all pays off.

Re: Why Nigel Bondswell was replaced : Mon May 21, 2012 6:52 pm  

Think you need to chill out a bit View From The Full Back

Nigel has been more than open around his Personal Circumstances which seems to me is being done for the sake of enlightenment into the workings behind the scenes.

Seems to me that you are the one who jumped down his throat looking to pick his words to pieces and create a reaction give the guy a break.

As for your ludicrous comment "As far as everyone else on here is concerned - you failed to pass a CRB check." I fail to see what gives you the right to comment on anyones behalf let alone everyone on here. Very narrow minded of you to think that we all share your opinion , I for one do not as I believe that a CRB cannot be failed or passed and is merely a guidance tool which enables an employer to place people into a role which involves the correct amount of supervision required to alleviate any concern and protect anyone who may be considered at risk from a particular person due to previous history.

Or are you just trying to get his back up ?????

Re: Why Nigel Bondswell was replaced : Mon May 21, 2012 8:53 pm  

Designated Driver wrote:

Think you need to chill out a bit View From The Full Back

Nigel has been more than open around his Personal Circumstances which seems to me is being done for the sake of enlightenment into the workings behind the scenes.

Seems to me that you are the one who jumped down his throat looking to pick his words to pieces and create a reaction give the guy a break.

As for your ludicrous comment "As far as everyone else on here is concerned - you failed to pass a CRB check." I fail to see what gives you the right to comment on anyones behalf let alone everyone on here. Very narrow minded of you to think that we all share your opinion , I for one do not as I believe that a CRB cannot be failed or passed and is merely a guidance tool which enables an employer to place people into a role which involves the correct amount of supervision required to alleviate any concern and protect anyone who may be considered at risk from a particular person due to previous history.

Or are you just trying to get his back up ?????

Thanks for the advice,

Sorry, you are right. I shouldn't have assumed that everyone on here had common sense. I should not have assumed that everyone would understand how an adverse CRB check can be seen as a failure. I now accept that you don't understand what I mean. Quite a few are struggling with basic comprehension as well and choosing not to read what I have written but what they would like to argue about.
I give up and will indeed "chill out",


I'll leave it with you.

Re: Why Nigel Bondswell was replaced : Mon May 21, 2012 9:02 pm  

Re: Why Nigel Bondswell was replaced : Mon May 21, 2012 9:14 pm  

Re: Why Nigel Bondswell was replaced : Tue May 22, 2012 2:43 pm  

I feel very sorry for Nigel, he came across as a good bloke. His humour added something that you can't put a price on.

If he hasn't been paid on time then it's pretty bad form from the club. It's unfortunate that throughout all walks of life (not just at Cougars) those that go the extra mile quite often get taken for granted, even treated poorly.

With regard to a CRB check, the certificate is actually called a "disclosure", because it is disclosing certain information from police records and various "lists". Technically there is no pass or fail but in reality people using them think of them so because you either pass or fail your employers requirement to do the job. CRB disclosures have to be used in accordance with a code of practice.

Re: Why Nigel Bondswell was replaced : Mon May 28, 2012 5:51 pm  

I feel sorry for Nigel also. Whilst being a good physio, he also brough a light-hearted air to the club. A sad day when he left.

Re: Why Nigel Bondswell was replaced : Mon May 28, 2012 6:55 pm  

Q & A tuesday night anyone going ??