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Re: How the hell can this be right? : Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:02 am  
Do you treally think you would give a damn if your team won this league this year? All the income that generates??
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Re: How the hell can this be right? : Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:34 am  
I agree with everything most people have said on here.
But if we did get relagated we wouldnt have a club.
There would be a mass exedus of players and fans.
Crowds would drop to around the 300 mark with traveling away supporters and our own fans wouldnt want to be paying £15 to watch a game which would be only a small step up from being slightly better than amature.
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Re: How the hell can this be right? : Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:41 am  
Dominance's post is understandable, but I agree with Dovo.
COUGARS SHOULD RETAIN INTEGRITY AND STAY 100% INDEPOENDENT. TO BECOME A FEEDER CLUB FOR A SUPER LEAGUE CLUB WOULD BE THE DEATH OF COUGARS.
Let's look at what is happenning.
The current RFL top brass and the current Super League clubs are obsessed with competing with other sports and money. Fair enough – we all want Rugby League to demonstrate that it is the greatest game – but not at the expense of destroying the game itself.
Compared with the Eddie Waring days I’m now happy that, with Sky etc, the players get a fairer exposure and recognition in the media. Beyond that, if it happens that Soccer is still the bigger game we just have to live with it.
But the current result is that the current Super League clubs really want all the Sky money for themselves. But they agree they have to give a bit to other clubs. So, instead of spending more of their share on running A teams, they come up with the bright idea of making lower division clubs effectively their A teams!
Cougars should have nothing to do with. Even if it means they are relegated from the Championship – but then aim to win every match the next year in Championship 1, get promoted and continue that yo-yo if need be.
Keighley needs an independent club. You can still sign players on loan if it is to the mutual benefit of both clubs and the player. Keighley should aim to bring through local young players and mix in experienced SL players if possible. There’s a limit to SL squad sizes and eventually stars in their 30’s will not get a place. You think of Paul Deacon, Sean Long etc recently and coming up Keith Senior, Danny Orr, Adrian Morley, Lee Briers, Richard Moore, Lee Gilmour etc. Keighley should look to bring in this type if they would be committed for two or three years. Cougars could also look to mix in the odd Australian who may come over looking to make a name, the odd Welsh RU player etc.
I know it all needs money – but things go in cycles. Until the next Smith/O’Neill come along Cougars just needs to maintain integrity along these lines as an independent club – whatever league that implies they play in.
The key is to keep POTENTIAL (the dream) alive. Championship clubs becoming feeder clubs lose that.
In this way it will add weight to the possibility of Bradford Council helping what should be a vibrant community club when the time of need arises for a new stand or even a new ground. OK, that wouldn’t be a Valley Parade type stadium initially but again a new ground would need POTENTIAL (ie spaceand good parking) to be improved & developed when the Cougars star rises again. Unfortunately Super League clubs will go bust in the future and in taking this long term approach the Cougars dream of getting back in the top division would still remain a reality.
In the meantime, what would attract players to Cougars Park? There’s no future in the current circumstatnces just throwing any money there might be at players. Longer term, players would appreciate better facilities and care – good training facilities, decent changing rooms, good medical (Pyhsio, doctor even dentist support), quality away travel etc.
Cougars have quite a catchment area. As well as Keighley, without pushing the boundaries too far – to Silsden, Addingham, Skipton & out to Earby/Barnoldswick there’s easily a SL club supporting catchment of a 100,000 population.
As well as a winning team, it is shown that a ground with improved seating, views, atmosphere, facilities and good cheap/free parking (& QUALITY entertainment singers etc)increases attendances. Cougar fans with an independent club could/should have pride in their area – a nice place to live, employment opportunities both part-time for players & also for family members, good schools and a proud community. This, apart from money, is what could attract the Adrian Morleys in the future and keep Cougars ALIVEAND INDEPENDENT NOW AND WITH CONTINUING POTENTIAL FOR THYE FUTURE.
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Re: How the hell can this be right? : Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:03 pm  
How the hell can this be right? Well clearly it's not right!

We must stay proud and independent - these tie-ups will kill the game - just my two penneth worth.
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Re: How the hell can this be right? : Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:27 pm  
How the hell can this be right? Well clearly it's not right!

We must stay proud and independent - these tie-ups will kill the game - just my two penneth worth.


Too late, by the looks of things we already have joined with cas.

Maybe the only way to stop us being a bottom two side and relagated to the div of doom.
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Re: How the hell can this be right? : Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:39 pm  
I agree and disagree with this new change to the game but I have to agree with Panth if we don't do this then like I said we would struggle this season especially with the likes of the few teams we would expect to beat and find our selves in a dog fight at the bottom of the table.
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Re: How the hell can this be right? : Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:35 pm  
I'd rather see us lose every game 40-0 and end up in Championship 1 with low crowds and a team full of local lads on £100 a game + £50 winning pay than see us sell out the way we have. I mean what about things like squadbuilder? Do fans really want to raise money to sign players who might not even get a game because someone comes in on dual-reg.

You've also got to love the way the club has broke this story. Not a single mention of it on their website, facebook, or twitter page as yet. Some of us loyal fans have spent hundreds if not thousands of pounds following the club all over, I myself have been to watch them in France twice. It's as if they knew this was going to create a lot of negative feedback so they let it slip to the Keighley News and hoped nobody read it, disgusting.
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Re: How the hell can this be right? : Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:04 pm  
Basically the Championship Club Owners/Chairs have admitted defeat , and not just the twinned ones , the Ridiculous decision to move the NRC final from Blackpool in the hope of a few more pieces of silver tells us this

As I put on the Leythers board , I remember the film ' The Incredible Shrinking Man '

He eventually dissapeared , if our part of the sport continues to contract , the same fate will await us
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Re: How the hell can this be right? : Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:03 am  
I'd rather see us lose every game 40-0 and end up in Championship 1


The problem is though the way championship 1 is at the moment that could just see the end of the club.
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Re: How the hell can this be right? : Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:12 pm  
Panth wrote:
The problem is though the way championship 1 is at the moment that could just see the end of the club.



Let's have confidence we won't be in a relegation place at the end of the season....

But I don't see playing in the 'third division' would be such a disaster: The aim would be to win every game & get promoted & there would be the chance to see/visit a load of new clubs. If Cougars did win all/most matches crowds should go up.

- Didn't do Cougars any harm in 1992/3!

Maybe we shouldn't be getting too het up with this Castleford thing given the way the RFL is running the game. I haven't seen the agreement in writing (if one exists) - but it sounds pretty informal and only tempoarary (this season only) In the past, if it was said that, due to an injury crisis, we'd loaned a couple of player from Cas - no-one would have been worried & would have looked forward to seeing a couple of new quality players turning out for Keighley.
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