Re: Downbeat !!! : Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:30 pm  

Fair point Len, but the reality is most people have commitment's, work etc, myself I am lucky if I can make every home game. However that doesn't mean your idea doesn't have some mileage, maybe thinking outside the box a little, Keighley College, Return to work organisation for instance, surly there must be people on courses there, doing painting and decorating, building carpentry,plumbing etc, how about linking up to give some real on the job experience, we have several building merchants and DIY stores in the Town maybe approaching them for materials. Coupled with any volunteers who can help,it may be a way forward. There must be someone out there(from the club)who can fill in the spaces in this idea and see if it is possible.

Re: Downbeat !!! : Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:47 pm  

Micky you are right in what you say about friendly's.
My concern is the amount of points shipped in over 3 games we have played.
Over 150 points isn't something that should happen as all the players who have played are 1st team squad players.
It was heard in the bar Paul March say the players attitudes were wrong on Sunday.
That's nothing to do with whats gone on in training.
Most training sessions will be very similar to all the others they have had with the exception of working on a few new things and trying to iron out a few mistakes.
But attitude how can that be used as an excuse?
We played what is in my mind more or less our strongest squad on Sunday and we were poor.
Swinton came with the right attitude and it showed.

Re: Downbeat !!! : Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:00 pm  

Lawkholme Len wrote:

Only one reply to my idea to spruce up our ground (well done County Durham Cougar - top man!) so maybe we have the club we deserve?

Sadly,at the moment Yes!!
That doesn't mean things can't improve but it takes teamwork to get things done.
The directors will have a strategy, that is their role. What it is,how it will be implemented are what they expect their employees to undertake.
I would suggest that getting people on board and getting the right thing done is the biggest challenge.
Not easy as things stand but then doing anything well takes practice.

Re: Downbeat !!! : Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:42 am  

shaunw78 wrote:

Fair point Len, but the reality is most people have commitment's, work etc, myself I am lucky if I can make every home game. However that doesn't mean your idea doesn't have some mileage, maybe thinking outside the box a little, Keighley College, Return to work organisation for instance, surly there must be people on courses there, doing painting and decorating, building carpentry,plumbing etc, how about linking up to give some real on the job experience, we have several building merchants and DIY stores in the Town maybe approaching them for materials. Coupled with any volunteers who can help,it may be a way forward. There must be someone out there(from the club)who can fill in the spaces in this idea and see if it is possible.

Some years ago Helen got a team together and we painted the crash barriers then two seasons ago we got a team down to clear the pitch of snow to get a game on Good Friday. All it needs is for a few hours one Saturday morning. As the ground is now it is putting people of coming down and - yes adding to the general feeling of despondency. "If we clean it they will come!" (Apologies to Kevin Costner!)

Re: Downbeat !!! : Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:48 am  

Look at what Batley has achieved with their ground with volunteers Their Chairman is a leader and talks direct to their supporters on their forum and at regular board/fans meetings. Cougars Chairman should come on this forum directly. If he said we need painters, joiners, and general helpers. etc Meet 10am Sunday. Work til 4pm, the board will provide paint, materials and lunch at McDonalds, there would be plenty of enthusiastic helpers turn up!!

Re: Downbeat !!! : Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:29 am  

Cross Hills Cougar wrote:

Look at what Batley has achieved with their ground with volunteers Their Chairman is a leader and talks direct to their supporters on their forum and at regular board/fans meetings. Cougars Chairman should come on this forum directly. If he said we need painters, joiners, and general helpers. etc Meet 10am Sunday. Work til 4pm, the board will provide paint, materials and lunch at McDonalds, there would be plenty of enthusiastic helpers turn up!!

Yes! fan-tastic ideas. Just been and swept the scoreboard corner. Took me 10 minutes and though not great a LOT better! The ground is, after all our (second) home and would you invite people into your home like that?

Re: Downbeat !!! : Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:36 pm  

Rightly or wrongly, I am a big believer in that to move forward you need to be professional On and Off the field. It's clear the majority of the budget goes on the playing squad which to a certain extent I agree with, but that is to the detriment to the off field professionalism of the club. I'm not saying that the club should employ a plethora of full time staff, quite the contrary but we have to strike that balance. Personally, I'm not sure we're there. I am concerned at the playing squad and whilst on paper were all allegedly the "favourites", in reality I think we're not near. We should have a ground that we and the players are proud of. That does not mean a 60,000 all-seater, but a tidy, well maintained ground. I know Len has done hours upon hours of work and he is a "clubman" in the truest sense of the word. In my opinion, the board could do more to assist this process and whilst it's commendable a group of fans can suggest and make a motion to make this happen, the club could and should be doing more. There are near 5,000 followers on Facebook and I would suggest that this site doesn't get 10% of that number as hits on here. I see the Cougars appealing to businesses via Facebook, but not one post asks for help. Truth is, some fans unless invited or suggested won't think about helping, but there is some goodwill out there, we just need to reach out to it.

If I was to be really honest I think we have a certain amount of apathy in the boardroom and they just expect things to happen. They lack innovative thinking and make big PR comments such as Super League and new ground etc, but these are just words and there is nothing to back it up with. Fans at the end of the day "buy in" to the process but there is nothing at the top driving this Cougar Train forward.