Re: Attendance Crisis Looming. : Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:34 pm  

£17 for this level is crazy money.

Let's look forward to attendances of 500-600 if it stays at that price.

I hope I'm wrong but I can't see it. This will force some people away and will stop us from attracting new fans.

Re: Attendance Crisis Looming. : Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:24 am  

Leaguefan wrote:

£11.99 (or less) per MONTH gets you 8 games of televised NRL a weekend of which 6 are usually live. PVR's are very useful houshold tools if you happen to be sleeping/working etc when they are on.

It's all down to the perception of "value for money" and what you are prepared to pay for what you get which is of course subjective.

You can't put a price on a good time. You enjoy your tv rugby and the rest of us will support the Cougars.

Enjoy.

Re: Attendance Crisis Looming. : Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:59 am  

Connor wrote:

£17 for this level is crazy money.

Let's look forward to attendances of 500-600 if it stays at that price.

I hope I'm wrong but I can't see it. This will force some people away and will stop us from attracting new fans.

That many Connor ?

Re: Attendance Crisis Looming. : Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:37 pm  

Gary's asked me to do a price comparison between clubs, I've compared the adult, concession, children and offers from each club.

ADULT:
Keighley Cougars - £17
Swinton Lions - £17 (Standing Price £15)
Barrow Raiders, York City Knights - £15
North Wales Crusaders - £14
Oldham Roughyeds - £13 (Standing Price £11)
Rochdale Hornets - £12 (Matchday £14)
Hemel Stags, London Skolars, Oxford RL - £12
Newcastle Thunder - £10 (Matchday £12)
Coventry Bears, South Wales Scorpions, University of Gloucestershire All Golds - £10

CONCESSIONS:
York City Knights - £12
Oldham Roughyeds - £11 (Standing Price £9)
Barrow Raiders, Keighley Cougars - £10
North Wales Crusaders - £9
Rochdale Hornets - £8 (Matchday £10)
Coventry Bears - £8
Swinton Lions - £7 (Standing Price £5)
Newcastle Thunder - £6 (Matchday £7.50)
Hemel Stags, London Skolars, Oxford RL - £6
South Wales Scorpions, University of Gloucestershire All Golds - £5

JUNIORS:
Oxford RL - £6 (Children Under Five £1)
London Skolars, York City Knights - £6
Newcastle Thunder - £5 (Matchday £6)
Barrow Raiders - £5 (Children Under Five Go Free)
North Wales Crusaders - £5 (Children Under Seven Go Free)
Oldham Roughyeds - £5 (Standing Price £3)
Rochdale Hornets - £5
Swinton Lions - £4 (Standing Price £2)
South Wales Scorpions - £2 (Aged 5-11 £1, Under Five Go Free)
Coventry Bears - £2 (Under Three Go Free)
Hemel Stags, University of Gloucestershire All Golds - £1
Keighley Cougars - FREE

Re: Attendance Crisis Looming. : Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:19 pm  

Hello Trouble! wrote:

Gary's asked me to do a price comparison between clubs, I've compared the adult, concession, children and offers from each club.

ADULT:
Keighley Cougars - £17
Swinton Lions - £17 (Standing Price £15)
Barrow Raiders, York City Knights - £15
North Wales Crusaders - £14
Oldham Roughyeds - £13 (Standing Price £11)
Rochdale Hornets - £12 (Matchday £14)
Hemel Stags, London Skolars, Oxford RL - £12
Newcastle Thunder - £10 (Matchday £12)
Coventry Bears, South Wales Scorpions, University of Gloucestershire All Golds - £10

CONCESSIONS:
York City Knights - £12
Oldham Roughyeds - £11 (Standing Price £9)
Barrow Raiders, Keighley Cougars - £10
North Wales Crusaders - £9
Rochdale Hornets - £8 (Matchday £10)
Coventry Bears - £8
Swinton Lions - £7 (Standing Price £5)
Newcastle Thunder - £6 (Matchday £7.50)
Hemel Stags, London Skolars, Oxford RL - £6
South Wales Scorpions, University of Gloucestershire All Golds - £5

JUNIORS:
Oxford RL - £6 (Children Under Five £1)
London Skolars, York City Knights - £6
Newcastle Thunder - £5 (Matchday £6)
Barrow Raiders - £5 (Children Under Five Go Free)
North Wales Crusaders - £5 (Children Under Seven Go Free)
Oldham Roughyeds - £5 (Standing Price £3)
Rochdale Hornets - £5
Swinton Lions - £4 (Standing Price £2)
South Wales Scorpions - £2 (Aged 5-11 £1, Under Five Go Free)
Coventry Bears - £2 (Under Three Go Free)
Hemel Stags, University of Gloucestershire All Golds - £1
Keighley Cougars - FREE

Will be interesting to see how the attendance figures compare at the end of the season.

Re: Attendance Crisis Looming. : Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:32 pm  

Rather than looking at admission prices in our division perhaps this table is more telling -

Championship Adult Admission Prices 2015 - Cheapest Adult Entry
Bulls £20
Broncos £20
Featherstone £18
Leigh £17
Batley £17
Halifax £17
Workington £16
Eagles £15
Haven £15
Hunslet £15
Dewsbury £15
Doncaster £15

Makes seventeen quid into a Championship One game look a bit of a joke (albeit a paticularly poor one) really doesn't it ...

The kids free offer is fine in principle , but if it means raising the 'headline' entry into the ground to compensate ,to an amount that, with consideration to the above list. could be perceived as an extortionate level, and therefore puts off potential adult support , then its clearly not working .

Attendance at the friendlies has sadly shown how much the core support is dwindling , and also a good pointer to the level of support we are likely to get from our visiting teams (this Sunday may provide a bit of a blip as I suspect East Leeds as amateurs will bring a fair amount of support ).. and inflated entry costs is not going to help that any

Re: Attendance Crisis Looming. : Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:56 pm  

Rach wrote:

Rather than looking at admission prices in our division perhaps this table is more telling -

Championship Adult Admission Prices 2015 - Cheapest Adult Entry
Bulls £20
Broncos £20
Featherstone £18
Leigh £17
Batley £17
Halifax £17
Workington £16
Eagles £15
Haven £15
Hunslet £15
Dewsbury £15
Doncaster £15

Makes seventeen quid into a Championship One game look a bit of a joke (albeit a paticularly poor one) really doesn't it ...

The kids free offer is fine in principle , but if it means raising the 'headline' entry into the ground to compensate ,to an amount that, with consideration to the above list. could be perceived as an extortionate level, and therefore puts off potential adult support , then its clearly not working .

Attendance at the friendlies has sadly shown how much the core support is dwindling , and also a good pointer to the level of support we are likely to get from our visiting teams (this Sunday may provide a bit of a blip as I suspect East Leeds as amateurs will bring a fair amount of support ).. and inflated entry costs is not going to help that any

An interesting comparison and very much food for thought for
our glorious leader .

Re: Attendance Crisis Looming. : Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:53 pm  

Years ago, after 'Cougarmania' had bitten the dust, and with dismissing crowds, my fellow supporters agreed that the only way to increase attendances and interest was 'to breed' it. We have done our best by having a boy and a girl (who cannot attend because they live over 200 miles from Cougar Park) but they still follow the results and they, as we, my wife and I, still hope that the 'Glory Days' will,return.

It's great that the players have stayed with the Club but reality needs to be acknowleded by everyone.

There are problems that need to be resolved:

1. The admission price

and

2. Assuming that the Club actually does desire to attract families and younger supporters

The apparent obscene language used by players on the field (although I cannot confirm this fact as I have only read comments).

Can anyone explain why (if still broadcast before games) the 'Use if obscene languagewill not be tolerated by anyone' does not apply to players also?

We have been 'ever-present' since the 60's until moving away, and have instilled the 'Cougar Culture' into our children, who continue to support the Cougars but, how many responsible parents will,continue to attend games with their children when the (so-called) 'responsible players' ignore the comments played before every game?

After moving to the south coast, we have attended several games but, and IT'S A BIG BUT, we would never expose our grandchildren (aged 5 and 3) to the language used by players during games, which has been reported on this forum, so after supporting the Club in numerous ways for the past 55 years, unless the players improve their language, I will not make the 600 mile round trip to my beloved Lawkholme Lane (aka 'Cougar Park') again.

As for the entry price? It is unbelievable!

The players should be paid by results and they need to realise thus fact.

If they win then OK, but if they lose then why would they be paid at all?

'Player's Agents'! Don't get me started on that, nor the RFL.

Re: Attendance Crisis Looming. : Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:16 am  

Why don't we have it free in and a bit of adminstration?

Sounds fun....

17quid is a bit much but its all about supporting your team or not at the end of the day!

Re: Attendance Crisis Looming. : Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:58 am  

It might not have escaped your notice HC that Keighley as a town isn't exactly booming and as as shown in the friendlies , the amount of folk that are prepared to put money over the CP turnstiles is sadly diminishing fast , people are choosing to spend what little money they have elsewhere .seventeen quid on the gate is not going encourage them to change their mind and once people get out of the habit of going to games in many cases they are lost forever .


As was demonstrated admirably back in 1993 at the start of Cougarmania days , a town on its booty needs something to galvanize it , make it feel good bout itself , which is exactly what they did back then , making what should have been a relatively easy division to succeed in a big thing .... that was a moment in time that will never happen again , but the Club has a chance to build itself up this year but instead we aim to alienate our core support and go for the quick buck ...

There have been some creative ideas posted on here that need looking at , after all low attendances affect every other income stream the club has in some way , be it bars , food , merchandise , even function bookings (many of which coming from venue suggestions by supporters to room hirers ) and sponsorship , who wants to sponsor a. Gane if theres no b****er there , sort of defeats the object . ....

Btw supporting your team , doesn't mean following blindly without criticism if you believe something is not right ....