Re: Club Marketing & Website & Matchday experience : Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:55 pm  

Dreamer wrote:

"Perfect" is a bit OTT.

There are far more people in the rest of the ground than there are in the stand. I stand at both ends and the speakers are inconsistent to non existent.

Volunteers deserve praise but are not beyond constructive criticism if it improves the matchday experience for all.

Think constructive criticism is fine, but everyone can have an opinion - I also know both ends of the sticks are poor with the sound but this is surly down to the club rather than having a pop at a volunteer, maybe the board can have a look at this and put there hand in there pockets and then everyone will be happy

Re: Club Marketing & Website & Matchday experience : Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:23 pm  

Is not having a PA system that is clearly audible throughout the ground a health and safety issue?

Re: Club Marketing & Website & Matchday experience : Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:05 pm  

shlobalob shlodin roobun shelfoed ding dong bubble bubble- thats what it sounds like - know some sponsors who are not happy

Re: Club Marketing & Website & Matchday experience : Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:11 am  

I think people need to stop taking constructive comments personally.

If the sound is a club issue, fine. The sound quality at both ends is poor. If the MC/Soundman is aware of this are they not best placed to feed this back to the club with a view to bidding for finance? I would do not have a clue with regard to speaker requirements etc. If this has already been done and fallen on deaf ears I apologise.

My comment was in relation to getting our own players names wrong which I'm sorry, volunteer, or paid employee is somewhat embarrassing.

I think Dreamers post is spot on in so far as, volunteers deserve massive praise for the time and effort put into the club, but should not exempt themselves from constructive feedback to improve what they and the club provide.

Re: Club Marketing & Website & Matchday experience : Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:29 am  

I guess people would rather have their constructive comments via another medium which isn't published on open view on the world wide web.

People make comments about my videos. I appreciate it if they tell me to my face or at least as a PM.

Stood behind the Siddal players filming at the bottom end yesterday the common theme of their discussion was Why would you want to play for Keighley. All you do is get berated and slagged off by your own fans.

If the opposition feel the negativity what do our own players feel.

Don't shoot the messenger, it is just what I could hear them saying.

Re: Club Marketing & Website & Matchday experience : Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:50 am  

Accepted Micky, but that is your preference not necessarily everyone's. Apart from a handful of people on here I do not know who people are and their involvement with the club. How do you PM someone when you don't know who they are or their involvement?

In relation to the comments regarding player critique etc, I don't think this is just isolated to the Cougars. In fact, I know for definite other sites are much more forthright in their views about players than our site. I think in the main people make comment on the game, coach and directors, but I feel individual players don't come in for a massive amount of flack. I looked at the Cas forum recently and some comments about Mr Owen were less than complementary.

Re: Club Marketing & Website & Matchday experience : Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:28 am  

Pickled onion wrote:

....... - I also know both ends of the sticks are poor with the sound but this is surly down to the club rather than having a pop at a volunteer.........

I was not having a "pop" at a volunteer, they all deserve respect.

You said he was "perfect" - I disagreed. I think I'm nearer the truth don't you?

If I was to compare him against all the other announcers that I have seen at Cougar park then I would put him as "average". I'm not trying to insult anyone, just being honest and I realise that it's only an opinion.

I find it curious that you feel he should be immune from criticism yet on the Siddal thread you have a "pop" at Gavin Duffy by picking him out as the only player from 17 to criticise.

Re: Club Marketing & Website & Matchday experience : Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:54 pm  

Dreamer wrote:

I was not having a "pop" at a volunteer, they all deserve respect.

You said he was "perfect" - I disagreed. I think I'm nearer the truth don't you? Go on then your prob correct the wording i used "Perfect" was incorrect

If I was to compare him against all the other announcers that I have seen at Cougar park then I would put him as "average". I'm not trying to insult anyone, just being honest and I realise that it's only an opinion.

I find it curious that you feel he should be immune from criticism yet on the Siddal thread you have a "pop" at Gavin Duffy by picking him out as the only player from 17 to criticise.

my opinion ! you are mistaken in thinking i feel the announcer should be immune from comments of improvement i just felt he was getting stick when he as i understand gives his time for free - i could be wrong.
A pop at Gav after the way he played on Sunday a honest opinion again i could have names a few players i normally think Gav plays well he just had a off match.

Re: Club Marketing & Website & Matchday experience : Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:01 pm  

I can count on my hands how many times I have got our own players names wrong in like 13 seasons of doing this. The problem we usually have is the team sheet is always arriving last minute and if it has mistakes they are not corrected so I'm reading on the fly.

The sound issues are a problem and I spent many hours last season taking down and getting repaired 3 of the long throw speakers and then putting them back up. The problem is to do the job right with the right equipment would cost thousands and I'm pretty sure the club hasn't got that. A new good quality radio microphone would cost in the region of £800 alone.

The system currently at cougar park originally cost over £40,000 and has been in use for some 9 years to my knowledge with very little spent on keeping it going.

I said I will look at the speakers at the bottom end and I am about to start working on the tunes etc. Unfortunately I've been a little side tracked by a sudden family bereavement and the issues that arise from this.

I will check the speakers and I will post on the outcome of this check.

I've read the posts people make and everyone is entitled to their opinion. I think people forget that I'm the same Mc who did the job for 5 years after Mick o'neil and for 5 years with Peter fell. I can't work miracles and can only work with what I've got. Dig in ya pockets and give me £10,000 and I will fix all the sound issues at the ground, that's what it would cost at the bare minimum to do the job correctly.

Re: Club Marketing & Website & Matchday experience : Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:14 am  

Pickled onion wrote:

[/b] my opinion ! you are mistaken in thinking i feel the announcer should be immune from comments of improvement i just felt he was getting stick when he as i understand gives his time for free - i could be wrong.
A pop at Gav after the way he played on Sunday a honest opinion again i could have names a few players i normally think Gav plays well he just had a off match.

I assume you use this because to want to be condescending.

As for the rest of your post, it helps if you attempt to use English and punctuation correctly.

You seem to jump in with both feet without thinking things through; you did the same in the thread about PIRAG (I'm still waiting for you to answer the questions I asked).

Here is what you said about the MC:

I think Dubane does a perfect job at MC - You can ear him clear as day in the stand if not a bit to loud sometimes.

I am simply pointing out that he is not perfect, ie not without fault. I will say it once again so it penetrates your head; I am not having a go at him.

You said that people can hear him (or to quote your post “ear” him) as clear as day in the stand. You failed to realise that the stand only accounts for 20% of the crowd. I suppose the rest of us don’t count?

You complain about the MC being picked on then single out one player for criticism from the Siddal match when you could have picked out several. I realise that it is your opinion but a tad hypocritical don’t you think?

Oh, I don't usually use this emoticon, but I'll stoop to your level just this once.