Re: what if....... : Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:45 am  

Cross Hills Cougar wrote:

All championship clubs (except Batley and Doncaster) should get together and put a motion forward to be voted on by ALL clubs at the next full rugby league Council meeting such that the central funding each club outside super league gets in 2015 is based on what the final championship table would have been in 2014 IF BATLEY AND DONCASTER HAD BEEN DEDUCTED THE 3 points each.

That will mean nothing if we are down.

Re: what if....... : Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:53 pm  

It would.

I don't know the exact figures. But say in 2015 you get £225,000 if you finish third and only £175,000 if you finish 5th. If Doncaster actually finish third but with 3 points deducted they would have finished 5th then they only get the £175,000 .

Likewise, let's say League 1 clubs in 2015 get £50,000 each but if you finish 9th in the Championship this year you get £125,000. Then, if Cougars get relegated and Batley finish 9th and stay up, but, if Batley had had the3 points deducted they would have been relegated with Cougars finishing 9th, then under above proposal Cougars get £125,000 next season and Batley only £50,000. Some consolation should Cougars actually go down.

Re: what if....... : Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:38 pm  

But if we had played better and won the games we should have
We wouldn't be in this situation.
We can all theorise all we want at the end of the day it boils down
To the fact that if we are relegated it is because we were not good enough.
Sad but true

Re: what if....... : Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:55 pm  

IF Cougars are relegated, it will be as a consequence of a Batley win in which an ineligible Super League player played and scored for them.

Re: what if....... : Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:16 pm  

End of day it's been lot more competitive this season all teams will say what if. Should we go down re build and come back stronger. True fans will be there no matter what ☺☺

Re: what if....... : Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:31 pm  

We must not forget the fact Batley etcetera have broken the rules and as far as I'm aware remain unpunished. I've heard various excuses regarding part time staff and ignorance of the rules. The bottom line is dewsbury managed not to break the rules by calling the RFL and asking them if their player was eligible. Batley didn't bother or played him anyway.

We have been good enough to stay up under normal circumstances. five go down this year which is an exception. In my opinion we have a playoff fringe quality squad and that's where we are. Id be happy with that next year. We lose half our games because our squad clearly is weak in certain departments and possibly our coaching for certain games.

My problem currently is our teams attitude has changed since hearing of the 3 point deduction. Batleys has changed now they have them back, momentum is with them. Essentially the whole thing is a complete mess and I would expect most Batley fans would agree they deserve a 3 point deduction, some won't care what we think and fair enough.

Re: what if....... : Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:44 am  

this_cougar_outfit wrote:

We must not forget the fact Batley etcetera have broken the rules and as far as I'm aware remain unpunished. I've heard various excuses regarding part time staff and ignorance of the rules. The bottom line is dewsbury managed not to break the rules by calling the RFL and asking them if their player was eligible. Batley didn't bother or played him anyway.

We have been good enough to stay up under normal circumstances. five go down this year which is an exception. In my opinion we have a playoff fringe quality squad and that's where we are. Id be happy with that next year. We lose half our games because our squad clearly is weak in certain departments and possibly our coaching for certain games.

My problem currently is our teams attitude has changed since hearing of the 3 point deduction. Batleys has changed now they have them back, momentum is with them. Essentially the whole thing is a complete mess and I would expect most Batley fans would agree they deserve a 3 point deduction, some won't care what we think and fair enough.

I agree, as much as people feel aggrieved by the decision, we must move on and meet the challenge head on. If we are relegated it is because over the season we were not good enough. I'm comfortable saying that because I know we haven't been. Forget Batley, if they stay up it's because they amassed more points and over the season arguably played better. The league table does not lie. Whilst I feel rule breaking needs to be punished, how can we say that a certain player made a team win. He may have scored, but if he hadn't played would there have been a player in a similar position of the field who could also have put the ball over the whitewash. If we get relegated it's our fault, nobody else's. TAXI for me!

Re: what if....... : Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:48 am  

I totally agree, we need to come away from this "Batley and Doncaster cheats!" if we go down it's our own fault but questions do need to be asked as to why we are in this position and that has nothing to do with the RL, Batley or Doncaster. Again, why was March given a new contract mid season? Why has the team under performed ... the team's good enough for a top four finish and look where we are!

And stuff the taxi, walkings good for you.

Re: what if....... : Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:39 pm  

KRLFC wrote:

I totally agree, we need to come away from this "Batley and Doncaster cheats!" if we go down it's our own fault but questions do need to be asked as to why we are in this position and that has nothing to do with the RL, Batley or Doncaster. Again, why was March given a new contract mid season? Why has the team under performed ... the team's good enough for a top four finish and look where we are!

And stuff the taxi, walkings good for you.

Great and fair post for what it's worth I think we should have 3 points deducted
However your right we are now playing with a stronger belief and with Ben Black in the side we are playing well
I hope you survive come 5 pm Sunday but hope we do too unfortunately that means Haven down
Good Luck

Re: what if....... : Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:57 pm  

KRLFC wrote:

I totally agree, we need to come away from this "Batley and Doncaster cheats!" if we go down it's our own fault but questions do need to be asked as to why we are in this position and that has nothing to do with the RL, Batley or Doncaster. Again, why was March given a new contract mid season? Why has the team under performed ... the team's good enough for a top four finish and look where we are!

And stuff the taxi, walkings good for you.

You really think they are good enough for a top 4 finish ??