: Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:29 pm  

View from the full back wrote:

And as for the burden of proof that the US uses, are they not the ones who had proof that Saddam Hussein had WMD?

Apparently he had a spud gun, not to mention some bic pens with the insides removed and a bag of pigeon peas.

What more do you want?

: Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:46 pm  

A good old fashioned debate, this is what we like to see.

: Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:03 pm  

OK then a question for you.

The British intelligence service catch a suspected Al-Qa'ida member.
They believe, he is a very high ranking member, who holds information about a forth coming terrorist attack on the UK.
This attack, if it happens, has the potential to kill hundreds, of people in one of our major cities.

Now during the questioning of this suspect, under the terms of the Geneva Convention, he tells the people asking the questions to French Connection UK off.
Now because of the Geneva Convention, there is nothing more that can be done.

Now what do we do?

: Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:19 pm  

How imminent is this terrorist attack? Keeping in mind that this facility has been open for 7 years.

And if these people are brainwashed to the point of suicide attacks then what is the point of torture.


And, supposedly, we're not barabarians in the west.

: Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:23 pm  

aj cougar wrote:

How imminent is this terrorist attack? Keeping in mind that this facility has been open for 7 years.

Its imminent, as in the next two weeks.
Forget Gauntanamo Bay. This is a suspect caught in this country.

aj cougar wrote:

And if these people are brainwashed to the point of suicide attacks then what is the point of torture.

Not everyone is mentally strong.

aj cougar wrote:

And, supposedly, we're not barabarians in the west.

Who says?

: Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:07 pm  

guess who wrote:

OK then a question for you.

The British intelligence service catch a suspected Al-Qa'ida member.
They believe, he is a very high ranking member, who holds information about a forth coming terrorist attack on the UK.
This attack, if it happens, has the potential to kill hundreds, of people in one of our major cities.

Now during the questioning of this suspect, under the terms of the Geneva Convention, he tells the people asking the questions to French Connection UK off.
Now because of the Geneva Convention, there is nothing more that can be done.

Now what do we do?

The answer to this is simple.
Force him to eat my wife’s cooking and watch recordings of Big Brother.

He will soon be begging for a flight to Guantanamo Bay for a bit of water boarding.

: Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:14 pm  

And what about the people who admit to things they haven't done under torture just to make it stop?

If enemies of ours believe they are going to be tortured when captured it is only going to make them fight harder.

: Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:38 pm  

Stealth Comic wrote:

And what about the people who admit to things they haven't done under torture just to make it stop?

If enemies of ours believe they are going to be tortured when captured it is only going to make them fight harder.

another very valid point I wish I had thought of

: Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:55 pm  

A very simple question to the liberal softies on here. Like Guess W ho I believe that by any means possible terrorist attacks must be stopped in war and this is a war sadly but true innocents get caught up in it, this is not justifying it but stating a fact. The main reason for the war on terror was the 9\11 unprovoked attack by muslims hence the invasron of Afghanistan. If the terrorists think they may get tortured whether or not it happens the message must be clear anyone that thinks we should be analysing them are in my mind somewhat deluded if they think it makes us safer.

: Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:11 pm  

girl power wrote:

A very simple question to the liberal softies on here. Like Guess W ho I believe that by any means possible terrorist attacks must be stopped in war and this is a war sadly but true innocents get caught up in it, this is not justifying it but stating a fact. The main reason for the war on terror was the 9\11 unprovoked attack by muslims hence the invasron of Afghanistan. If the terrorists think they may get tortured whether or not it happens the message must be clear anyone that thinks we should be analysing them are in my mind somewhat deluded if they think it makes us safer.

you started off by saying a simple question, but I can't see a question in there.