Re: It's official - administration and new company : Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:21 pm  

I have to disagree with those advocating folk at club lose their jobs as a result of the directors mess its high time they took responsibility for this. At the end of the day the cougars product on the pitch is working and the community work is great in addition to this the club has recently been getting new albeit small businesses buying into the product the cougars are selling. Why other folk should suffer for failure at the very top beats me, remember with the new consortium staff and players futures are secure.

Re: It's official - administration and new company : Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:40 pm  

j.c wrote:

the problem with cutting players wages is you get a less quality of player which leads to a lesser quality of product on the field which leads to smaller gates.catch 22 i think.

I see where your coming from but I'd rather see us get beat by 50 points every week than not watch us at all because we've paid out too much and gone under.

Apart from us there are at least 4 other clubs that have been in a similar predicament in the last year and for all we know that's the tip of the iceberg.

Personally I think the RFL should take the lead and lower the salary cap to a level that makes it very difficult for any team to go under by breaking the bank.

Re: It's official - administration and new company : Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:00 pm  

j.c wrote:

the problem with cutting players wages is you get a less quality of player which leads to a lesser quality of product on the field which leads to smaller gates.catch 22 i think.

Does having better players result in more people through the gates ?

The ' product ' [ I hate that term but it is the most suitable on this occaision ] can be just as exciting with lesser quality players than supposed better ones , good attacking RL can be played at any level , much of that is down to the coach , I'd guess that 80/90 % of your fans base wouldn't know the difference [ I know I wouldn't ] and more importantly 100 % of your target fan base wouldn't know or care

Detatch yourself from being a regular go anywhere anytime fan and put yourself into the position of somebody who has never been to a RL match , or a kid of 7/8/9 , what would bring you back to Cougar Park after one visit ?

Re: It's official - administration and new company : Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:01 pm  

girl power wrote:

I have to disagree with those advocating folk at club lose their jobs as a result of the directors mess its high time they took responsibility for this. At the end of the day the cougars product on the pitch is working and the community work is great in addition to this the club has recently been getting new albeit small businesses buying into the product the cougars are selling. Why other folk should suffer for failure at the very top beats me, remember with the new consortium staff and players futures are secure.

Is it ?

Re: It's official - administration and new company : Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:04 pm  

There's NO WAY Rachel would have strippers in the bar, though...

Re: It's official - administration and new company : Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:09 pm  

I think good vocal - and friendly - crowds would get people coming back, but it's always better for a first time visitor to see a win, which could be a problem...
So, we need to get a half decent attendance, loud but friendly. To do that, we need to reach a target audience, be it families, young adults or whatever, but people who will be paying to get in. Not just flooding schools with free tickets, but getting people to part with the readies.
How about a '2 games for twenty quid' kinda deal for a new supporter, where a season ticket holder can introduce a new fan or summat?

Re: It's official - administration and new company : Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:11 pm  

Mick W. wrote:

There's NO WAY Rachel would have strippers in the bar, though...

Its an idea , we can take it on board and look at it's merits

Re: It's official - administration and new company : Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:18 pm  

Mick W. wrote:

I think good vocal - and friendly - crowds would get people coming back, but it's always better for a first time visitor to see a win, which could be a problem...
So, we need to get a half decent attendance, loud but friendly. To do that, we need to reach a target audience, be it families, young adults or whatever, but people who will be paying to get in. Not just flooding schools with free tickets, but getting people to part with the readies.
How about a '2 games for twenty quid' kinda deal for a new supporter, where a season ticket holder can introduce a new fan or summat?

This is why I asked about your community work and your ability to get into town centres and supermarkets , I assume you give out free kids tickets with a paying adult , Does it work ? , what is your take up ? , do you give out anything else ? , who do you target when offering free tickets ? the dads ? or the mothers ?

Re: It's official - administration and new company : Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:24 pm  

Stealth Comic wrote:

I see where your coming from but I'd rather see us get beat by 50 points every week than not watch us at all because we've paid out too much and gone under.

Apart from us there are at least 4 other clubs that have been in a similar predicament in the last year and for all we know that's the tip of the iceberg.

Personally I think the RFL should take the lead and lower the salary cap to a level that makes it very difficult for any team to go under by breaking the bank.

i think clubs outside SL run up big debts because theres nothing to lose.[big debts,10point deduction,religation,start afresh]it a cycle that clubs in our divisions get themselves into.it is all wrong and it should be stopped.my own thoughts are,that no clubs are allowed to spend more than there income and if they are found to have done so they are instantly religated for a period of time and the same for champ/1 teams deny them promotion for the same period.also clubs should not be allowed to accept loans with or without interest[ever]because these will alway come back and haunt you at some stage.if every club adhered to ideas like this there would less trouble,less anger and less miss trust amongst us supporters[just my thoughts]

Re: It's official - administration and new company : Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:28 pm  

Mick W. wrote:

I think good vocal - and friendly - crowds would get people coming back, but it's always better for a first time visitor to see a win, which could be a problem...
So, we need to get a half decent attendance, loud but friendly. To do that, we need to reach a target audience, be it families, young adults or whatever, but people who will be paying to get in. Not just flooding schools with free tickets, but getting people to part with the readies.
How about a '2 games for twenty quid' kinda deal for a new supporter, where a season ticket holder can introduce a new fan or summat?

What you are suggesting is something very familiar to you , atmosphere , a good day out , something more than just attending a RL match , you could call it something like , well I dont know , maybe , how about

Cougarmania

Maybe I am making it sound easier than it really is , of that I have no doubt , but it is what needs to happen , not just at Couar park but at all the grounds outside SL

I suggested last season that you and Dewsbury offer to pay for each others away fans to attend the 2 TV games , why would I suggest such a thing ? , why should your club pay for fans to come from Dewsbury to support the team trying to beat the Cougars ? , madness isn't it

But , if you could have got 5/600 of them to come the atmosphere would have been electric , you then appeal to the people of Keighley to turn out because you dont want to be outsung on your patch

When you then go to the Tetley stadium , you take 5/600 , the result is a good atmopheric match

Like the owden days , remember