Re: It's official - administration and new company : Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:30 pm  

j.c wrote:

i think clubs outside SL run up big debts because theres nothing to lose.[big debts,10point deduction,religation,start afresh]it a cycle that clubs in our divisions get themselves into.it is all wrong and it should be stopped.my own thoughts are,that no clubs are allowed to spend more than there income and if they are found to have done so they are instantly religated for a period of time and the same for champ/1 teams deny them promotion for the same period.also clubs should not be allowed to accept loans with or without interest[ever]because these will alway come back and haunt you at some stage.if every club adhered to ideas like this there would less trouble,less anger and less miss trust amongst us supporters[just my thoughts]

The only way of stopping that is to increase revenue and to rigorously police salary caps

Re: It's official - administration and new company : Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:34 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Does having better players result in more people through the gates ?

The ' product ' [ I hate that term but it is the most suitable on this occaision ] can be just as exciting with lesser quality players than supposed better ones , good attacking RL can be played at any level , much of that is down to the coach , I'd guess that 80/90 % of your fans base wouldn't know the difference [ I know I wouldn't ] and more importantly 100 % of your target fan base wouldn't know or care

Detatch yourself from being a regular go anywhere anytime fan and put yourself into the position of somebody who has never been to a RL match , or a kid of 7/8/9 , what would bring you back to Cougar Park after one visit ?

i'm like you pal i can watch rugby anywhere but if one team is'nt as good as the others its an unfair advantage and not good to watch

Re: It's official - administration and new company : Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:45 pm  

Starbug wrote:

The only way of stopping that is to increase revenue and to rigorously police salary caps

you've been shouting for clubs to increase revenue[quite rightly]for some time now lets hope some clubs are listening.on the salary cap issue,[absolutely] it should be policed vigorously without exception.

Re: It's official - administration and new company : Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:48 pm  

j.c wrote:

i think clubs outside SL run up big debts because theres nothing to lose.[big debts,10point deduction,religation,start afresh]it a cycle that clubs in our divisions get themselves into.it is all wrong and it should be stopped.my own thoughts are,that no clubs are allowed to spend more than there income and if they are found to have done so they are instantly religated for a period of time and the same for champ/1 teams deny them promotion for the same period.also clubs should not be allowed to accept loans with or without interest[ever]because these will alway come back and haunt you at some stage.if every club adhered to ideas like this there would less trouble,less anger and less miss trust amongst us supporters[just my thoughts]

I agree to an extent.

I've put on another thread that clubs should be independently audited and should they be found to be operating at a loss before borrowings and sugar daddy financing they should have their salary cap lowered by a percentage relative to the gravity of the offence.

Re: It's official - administration and new company : Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:57 pm  

Stealth Comic wrote:

I agree to an extent.

I've put on another thread that clubs should be independently audited and should they be found to be operating at a loss before borrowings and sugar daddy financing they should have their salary cap lowered by a percentage relative to the gravity of the offence.

what do you do if they keep over spending

Re: It's official - administration and new company : Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:57 pm  

Stealth Comic wrote:

I agree to an extent.

I've put on another thread that clubs should be independently audited and should they be found to be operating at a loss before borrowings and sugar daddy financing they should have their salary cap lowered by a percentage relative to the gravity of the offence.

And yet that is something the RFL are actively encouraging

Re: It's official - administration and new company : Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:00 pm  

Theres nothing we can do anymore, the clubs gone into admin and we're gonna lose points from the RFL. The only people to blame are those that let the club get into such a bad state in the first place.
You cant just say sack staff at the club, it's tight enough as it is down there. Who would you really get to do the jobs they do? It's alright saying get volunteers in but who's going to stand behind the bar and miss the entire game? Or stay around after closing up time and clean up?
I feel sorry for Colin in all this, he's ploughed money into the club and now look whats happened. Who's going to go down to the kitchen at 6am putting the ovens on and filling them with joints of beef for the meal upstairs?
At the end of the day nothing can be done other than carry on the work getting more fans into the ground, which lets face it was happening last season I certainly saw a crowd increase. We just need to get behind the lads for the start of the season, they're gonna try their best even with a points deduction. Lets just get behind them.

COOOUUUGGGAAAAAAAAAARRRSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: It's official - administration and new company : Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:03 pm  

Starbug wrote:

The only way of stopping that is to increase revenue and to rigorously police salary caps

Maybe if looked toward how American sports are managed it could help.

I believe if they put more realistic salary caps in place it would attract more investment in to the sport.

More clubs would have a shot at glory for a start.

Investors might have a chance of getting a return.

A percentage of profit could be allocated to ground improvements, youth development etc.

Having a collective bargaining agreement for merchandise. All kits made by the same manufacturer, with a single online shop covering every club, reducing costs. The profit could then be distributed equally amongst all clubs.

It seems to work over there.

Re: It's official - administration and new company : Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:08 pm  

j.c wrote:

what do you do if they keep over spending

You keep punishing them, they'll get the message eventually.

Their cap would keep getting lower and lower until they reach the point that they break the salary cap and points start getting deducted.

Re: It's official - administration and new company : Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:09 pm  

Stealth Comic wrote:

Maybe if looked toward how American sports are managed it could help.

I believe if they put more realistic salary caps in place it would attract more investment in to the sport.

More clubs would have a shot at glory for a start.

Investors might have a chance of getting a return.

A percentage of profit could be allocated to ground improvements, youth development etc.

Having a collective bargaining agreement for merchandise. All kits made by the same manufacturer, with a single online shop covering every club, reducing costs. The profit could then be distributed equally amongst all clubs.

It seems to work over there.

You're nearly there , I'll let you know how I go on