Re: Capitulation! : Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:23 am  

I think for 60 mins Cougars bossed the game and deserved to be ahead.

Fitness played a part in them losing it for me. I have faith the Cougars will do alright this season. The Batley fans got a bit excited towards the end, bless them. It was their cup final though.....

Re: Capitulation! : Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:29 am  

Jim Bergerac wrote:

Obviously. However, I really don't see the need to include every single penalty conceded by the opposition. Pathetic.

To be fair you did give a lot of pens away. I though it was mainly due to the Dogs struggling to cope with the Cougars.
As for the video highlights I didn't bother watching them as I just attended the game.

Re: Capitulation! : Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:29 am  

who are you wrote:

john kears game plan worked with the playing area. he went back to playing spoiling rugby for 65 minutes and then when you was knackered he let the likes of black,moore throw the ball around and you couldn't cope. i thought semi T got poked in the eye by his opposite centre walton every time same with korki smith and potter laid on/flopped everytime. I have watched the video and now realise batley were offside everytime and penalty count should have been much, much higer. My Batley glasses work well..

Minor corrections for accuracy ......

PS You can use capitals and punctuation if you want, it does make things easier to read

Re: Capitulation! : Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:33 am  

RBear wrote:

I think for 60 mins Cougars bossed the game and deserved to be ahead.

Fitness played a part in them losing it for me. I have faith the Cougars will do alright this season. The Batley fans got a bit excited towards the end, bless them. It was their cup final though.....

bit puzzled at this statement.....batleys cup final ?? against a side that have just come up from Championship one, who they also beat twice the season before once by around 50 points if i recall, won the Northern rail cup, and last season finished around thid or fourth ? and already beaten KC in a pre season friendly ???
have i missed the pun somewhere ???
As I said the forwards had been turned around deep into their own half on countless occassions, and this was a factor in the game. That unfortunately is what coaching is about and I did say before the game i was a little suprised at the amount of halves and hookers in the keighley 17, and March for starters should not have been played instead of a forward.
Fair play to JD, he held his hand up to a very naive mistake, which im sure his former mentor Kear would have picked up on and exploited.

Re: Capitulation! : Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:44 am  

Rhino Roy wrote:

As I said the forwards had been turned around deep into their own half on countless occassions, and this was a factor in the game. That unfortunately is what coaching is about and I did say before the game i was a little suprised at the amount of halves and hookers in the keighley 17, and March for starters should not have been played instead of a forward.
Fair play to JD, he held his hand up to a very naive mistake, which im sure his former mentor Kear would have picked up on and exploited.

He did admit to being too lightweight in the pack after the game.

I have to admit I was a little surprised when I saw Jy-Mel Coleman on the team sheet at Loose Forward. No disrespect to Jy-Mel, he's a quality half back, but I'd much rather see us use a 3rd prop at 13 over a 3rd half back.

Re: Capitulation! : Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:46 am  

Rhino Roy wrote:

bit puzzled at this statement.....batleys cup final ?? against a side that have just come up from Championship one, who they also beat twice the season before once by around 50 points if i recall, won the Northern rail cup, and last season finished around thid or fourth ? and already beaten KC in a pre season friendly ???
have i missed the pun somewhere ???

I think his tongue was firmly in his cheek when he posted this.

On the other hand he could have been serious.....

Some Batley fans are getting rather excited by our comments on here and whilst I'm all for a bit of banter, some of them have gone all girly on us. Only time will tell if the keep net gets fuller.

Re: Capitulation! : Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:10 pm  

The Batley 1st try was a joke. The ref who collected and thought he deserved his pay for awarding it likewise. A player lands on his ball carrying arm, he is tackled. He can't pass the ball forward then after that. If it could be seen from the other end of the field I don't know how the ref didn't see it as he was stood over it. I wouldn't mind but he continued the rest of the game with a similar standard. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--DZazcBYyA Jim Bergerac wrote:Oh, and finally, thanks for the heavily-edited match highlights on Youtube - a real 'video nasty'. . Jim - I do edit it. Otherwise it would not be a highlights video. I also show what I see. If Cougars play well, I show the good. If the other team play well, I show that also. If we play badly I show that. Note our visit to your place in 2010. I would not describe it as a video nasty. It was the best / worst bits whichever way you look at it as I saw it. If you don't like it don't watch it. IMO these teams are very close in standard. I do think on this occasion the ref helped Batley a little. What goes around comes around and there will be other weeks when ref decisions favour us. (I hope) Part of the game. Also IMO the try by the Batley number 4, or more the build up and way the try was made was class. This was the one that took it to 16 - 12

The Batley 1st try was a joke. The ref who collected and thought he deserved his pay for awarding it likewise. A player lands on his ball carrying arm, he is tackled. He can't pass the ball forward then after that. If it could be seen from the other end of the field I don't know how the ref didn't see it as he was stood over it. I wouldn't mind but he continued the rest of the game with a similar standard. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--DZazcBYyA Jim Bergerac wrote:Oh, and finally, thanks for the heavily-edited match highlights on Youtube - a real 'video nasty'. . Jim - I do edit it. Otherwise it would not be a highlights video. I also show what I see. If Cougars play well, I show the good. If the other team play well, I show that also. If we play badly I show that. Note our visit to your place in 2010. I would not describe it as a video nasty. It was the best / worst bits whichever way you look at it as I saw it. If you don't like it don't watch it. IMO these teams are very close in standard. I do think on this occasion the ref helped Batley a little. What goes around comes around and there will be other weeks when ref decisions favour us. (I hope) Part of the game. Also IMO the try by the Batley number 4, or more the build up and way the try was made was class. This was the one that took it to 16 - 12

Re: Capitulation! : Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:17 pm  

MICKY1920 wrote: The Batley 1st try was a joke. The ref who collected and thought he deserved his pay for awarding it likewise. A player lands on his ball carrying arm, he is tackled. He can't pass the ball forward then after that. If it could be seen from the other end of the field I don't know how the ref didn't see it as he was stood over it. I wouldn't mind but he continued the rest of the game with a similar standard. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--DZazcBYyA Jim Bergerac wrote:Oh, and finally, thanks for the heavily-edited match highlights on Youtube - a real 'video nasty'. . Jim - I do edit it. Otherwise it would not be a highlights video. I also show what I see. If Cougars play well, I show the good. If the other team play well, I show that also. If we play badly I show that. Note our visit to your place in 2010. I would not describe it as a video nasty. It was the best / worst bits whichever way you look at it as I saw it. If you don't like it don't watch it. IMO these teams are very close in standard. I do think on this occasion the ref helped Batley a little. What goes around comes around and there will be other weeks when ref decisions favour us. (I hope) Part of the game. Also IMO the try by the Batley number 4, or more the build up and way the try was made was class. This was the one that took it to 16 - 12 When a team loses there is always a blame the referee post. The referee got decisions wrong for both sides. The 1st Batley try was a try look in Monday's Rugby League Express. The difference between the two sides on Sunday was fitness. The Keighley team was not fit enough to compete for the full 80 minutes against Batley. Keighley will get fitter but the worry for Keighley is when the grounds get firmer and next week against a Toulouse side whose match fitness will also be much better than Keighley's. Batley like Keighley is a new team so expected a tough game at Keighley but when the Batley team does gel we will be a match for any team. The plus for Keighley was the crowd of over 1,000. Hope you win in Toulouse and all the best for the rest of the season (except against Batley).

MICKY1920 wrote: The Batley 1st try was a joke. The ref who collected and thought he deserved his pay for awarding it likewise. A player lands on his ball carrying arm, he is tackled. He can't pass the ball forward then after that. If it could be seen from the other end of the field I don't know how the ref didn't see it as he was stood over it. I wouldn't mind but he continued the rest of the game with a similar standard. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--DZazcBYyA Jim Bergerac wrote:Oh, and finally, thanks for the heavily-edited match highlights on Youtube - a real 'video nasty'. . Jim - I do edit it. Otherwise it would not be a highlights video. I also show what I see. If Cougars play well, I show the good. If the other team play well, I show that also. If we play badly I show that. Note our visit to your place in 2010. I would not describe it as a video nasty. It was the best / worst bits whichever way you look at it as I saw it. If you don't like it don't watch it. IMO these teams are very close in standard. I do think on this occasion the ref helped Batley a little. What goes around comes around and there will be other weeks when ref decisions favour us. (I hope) Part of the game. Also IMO the try by the Batley number 4, or more the build up and way the try was made was class. This was the one that took it to 16 - 12 When a team loses there is always a blame the referee post. The referee got decisions wrong for both sides. The 1st Batley try was a try look in Monday's Rugby League Express. The difference between the two sides on Sunday was fitness. The Keighley team was not fit enough to compete for the full 80 minutes against Batley. Keighley will get fitter but the worry for Keighley is when the grounds get firmer and next week against a Toulouse side whose match fitness will also be much better than Keighley's. Batley like Keighley is a new team so expected a tough game at Keighley but when the Batley team does gel we will be a match for any team. The plus for Keighley was the crowd of over 1,000. Hope you win in Toulouse and all the best for the rest of the season (except against Batley).

Re: Capitulation! : Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:50 am  

Rhino Roy wrote:

bit puzzled at this statement.....batleys cup final ?? against a side that have just come up from Championship one, who they also beat twice the season before once by around 50 points if i recall, won the Northern rail cup, and last season finished around thid or fourth ? and already beaten KC in a pre season friendly ???
have i missed the pun somewhere ???

i just thought with the celebrations the cup was won for another year

Re: Capitulation! : Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:39 am  

bulldogtrev wrote:

When a team loses there is always a blame the referee post.

Yes, I've had a quick look on your site, there are lots.

The referee got decisions wrong for both sides.

Agreed

The 1st Batley try was a try look in Monday's Rugby League Express.

If all we did was believe the gospel according to Batley, the RL Express etc. then there wouldn't be much to debate over would there?

The difference between the two sides on Sunday was fitness. The Keighley team was not fit enough to compete for the full 80 minutes against Batley. Keighley will get fitter but the worry for Keighley is when the grounds get firmer and next week against a Toulouse side whose match fitness will also be much better than Keighley's.

Batley like Keighley is a new team so expected a tough game at Keighley but when the Batley team does gel we will be a match for any team.
The plus for Keighley was the crowd of over 1,000. Hope you win in Toulouse and all the best for the rest of the season (except against Batley).

I wouldn't disagree with much of that.

FWIW I have every respect for the progress Batley have made over the last few years. I just find it amusing that some of your fans want to throw girly strops over some of the comments we have made, especially when you look at some of the things your fans post on your website and on those of others.