Re: Should we just give Barrow the game. : Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:15 am  

Dreamer wrote:

I can see both sides of the debate and whilst I think we should make best use of our full squad throughout the season, it just goes against the grain to put out a weakened side on purpose. I also think it sets a dangerous precedent.

Picture this:

We've been playing well, clawed back the -9 points and have a chance of survival. Barrow are doing well in the league, have signed a couple of S/L quality players in their build up to an SL application, and have also had an exceptional cup run. They have a midweek fixture against our survival rival and are odds on favourites to win. However, they decide to play a virtual reserve grade side to save the best players for the cup fixture at the weekend. They feel justified in this because after all, others have done it against them . They loose and we are subsequently relegated.

How do you feel now?

PS someone also makes a lot of money at the bookies

The idea of a squad is to make full use of playing all of them, if they are needed.
So no i would not have any problem with this happening.

Re: Should we just give Barrow the game. : Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:22 am  

Just a thought if we are being beaten do you think we should walk off pitch avoiding further injuries

Re: Should we just give Barrow the game. : Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:26 am  

girl power wrote:

Just a thought if we are being beating us, do you think we should walk off pitch avoiding further injuries

Re: Should we just give Barrow the game. : Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:28 am  

My englishh is notta so gooda.

Re: Should we just give Barrow the game. : Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:48 pm  

guess who wrote:

The idea of a squad is to make full use of playing all of them, if they are needed.
So no i would not have any problem with this happening.

I think you are missing the point I am trying to make. To me there is a big distinction between "first team squad" and "reserves"

So far on this thread we have heard the terms:
"Give them the the game" - (I think we have concluded that this is completely unacceptable)
"use the squad"
"Play the reserves"
"Play the second team"
"play a weakened side"

Maybe I am misinterpreting what people mean but when I hear or use the word "squad" I think of that as our first team. Anyone in the "squad" is part of the first team should and will play first team rugby throughout the season in games and at times decided by the head coach to the benefit of the team.

I think our "reserves" or "second team" are the under 21's. (we don't actually have a reserve (A) team any more)

The rotation of players is perfectly acceptable to any team and that includes those in the squad and occasionally those in the under 21's.

So if posters are saying send the second team (under 21's) to play Barrow then IMHO that is just plain wrong and I don't care what back up arguments, and "what if's" are used. This is not in any way a slight on the under 21's, I really enjoy watching them, but an experienced side like Barrow (who need to win), could do some real damage. We need to nurture our young talent not knobble it.

So, having said all that, and to clarify my earlier post, would anyone on this board be happy if we were relegated because another club fielded their reserve side (U 21's) against our nearest rival and lost?????

Re: Should we just give Barrow the game. : Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:11 pm  

Dreamer re folk being happy if we got relegated because another team fielded reserve side, I reckon a couple of posters here would not be botheerd, far too much talking the team/club down from individuals for my liking.

Re: Should we just give Barrow the game. : Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:31 pm  

girl power wrote:

Dreamer re folk being happy if we got relegated because another team fielded reserve side, I reckon a couple of posters here would not be botheerd, far too much talking the team/club down from individuals for my liking.

Where?

Point me to these posts.

Re: Should we just give Barrow the game. : Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:53 pm  

Dreamer wrote:

I think you are missing the point I am trying to make. To me there is a big distinction between "first team squad" and "reserves"

So far on this thread we have heard the terms:
"Give them the the game" - (I think we have concluded that this is completely unacceptable)
"use the squad"
"Play the reserves"
"Play the second team"
"play a weakened side"

Maybe I am misinterpreting what people mean but when I hear or use the word "squad" I think of that as our first team. Anyone in the "squad" is part of the first team should and will play first team rugby throughout the season in games and at times decided by the head coach to the benefit of the team.

I think our "reserves" or "second team" are the under 21's. (we don't actually have a reserve (A) team any more)

The rotation of players is perfectly acceptable to any team and that includes those in the squad and occasionally those in the under 21's.

So if posters are saying send the second team (under 21's) to play Barrow then IMHO that is just plain wrong and I don't care what back up arguments, and "what if's" are used. This is not in any way a slight on the under 21's, I really enjoy watching them, but an experienced side like Barrow (who need to win), could do some real damage. We need to nurture our young talent not knobble it.

So, having said all that, and to clarify my earlier post, would anyone on this board be happy if we were relegated because another club fielded their reserve side (U 21's) against our nearest rival and lost?????

P.S. I'm not having a go at anyone, just expressing my opinion.

Re: Should we just give Barrow the game. : Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:42 pm  

aj cougar wrote:

Where?

Point me to these posts.

You asked GP to answer a question.
You should know that isn't going to happen.

Re: Should we just give Barrow the game. : Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:22 pm  

Good see the chuckle brothers aka gw and aj working together again. I only reply to people that are of interest take the hint girls

Post somemething intellectually challengng you may get a response.