Re: John Kear : Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:49 pm  

bren2k wrote:

No point looking back - JK wanted out and he got his wish; now everyone has moved on.

This.

Re: John Kear : Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:58 pm  

PopTart wrote:

I like what he did for Wakefield and would go as far as to say that he has been the most influencial coach we've had while I've been watching Wakefield (and I go back to late 70s).
Many times he made average players into better ones and bonded a team to beat teams they really shouldn't have expected to.
Equally we had games where it didn't go well. That's just sport I'm afraid.

I didn't want Kear before he came. Didn't really like the teams he'd been at, but he changed my mind and it remains changed.

I didn't really want Agar either, preferring to keep Kear, but now we have Agar I'm willing to learn from my mistake with Kear and give him a chance to prove himself and build a club.

Thing is, Kear hit the ground running. I think its very unfair to point to how things went in the immediate aftermath of Administration. He stood no chance at all with that squad; as for blooding youngsters, were there really that many who were good enough or anywhere near ready? I stand to be corrected but the glimpses I got didn't show any future internationals shouting out. The whole season could never be anything more than damage limitation. I don't see any hope at all with Agar. Same mistakes over and over. No sign the coach knows how to get the squad to at least partly improve the obvious flaws. I am happy to eat my words but I cannot see a hope RA can really coach at this level. The only thing one might say is that the squad was assembled to a great degree before he was in place and the final test is seeing what he brings in and what he makes of them.....but would I risk my cash on him if I was AG; not on your Nellie. There has been very little to suggest we have improved or moved forward on the pitch except for a few occasional flashes in tha pan that soon are gone. If we can afford it, unless there is a marked improvement in these last few games, I would not start next year with Agar or risk valuable resources on him. And Bradford's loss I wouldn't at all mind being our gain.

Re: John Kear : Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:24 pm  

Don't want to talk down what Kear achieved with us here because I was a big admirer of him but we got regularly spanked throughout his time here and spanked worse than what we we have this year so far.

No doubt I'd like some of our close loses back this year but imo some people are really over doing how poor we've played this year, with the squad we've got we're doing about par for the course.

Re: John Kear : Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:55 pm  

We may not be getting big spankings but 29 points per game is not good enough.

Re: John Kear : Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:59 pm  

can we not look forward rather than the past

Re: John Kear : Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:16 pm  

El Rey wrote:

We may not be getting big spankings but 29 points per game is not good enough.

Maybe and I'm not saying otherwise but like I said above some people imo have gone a bit ott with the condemnation of how we've played this season. But for a call here or there we could have easily had another 4 or 5 wins.

Re: John Kear : Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:39 pm  

charlie63wildcat wrote:

Thing is, Kear hit the ground running. I think its very unfair to point to how things went in the immediate aftermath of Administration. He stood no chance at all with that squad;

The same could be said for RA, with his lastminute.com SL squad.

Re: John Kear : Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:55 am  

snowie wrote:

can we not look forward rather than the past

nothing wrong with looking back, can learn a lot from the past. think a lot of people under estimate just how much jk did for wakefield imo top coach, top guy and i heard a whisper from a few different sources that he may be on his way back into sl next season. nothing concrete only something i have heard.

[PopTart]

Re: John Kear : Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:02 am  

I think it is showing now we are moving through the season that we needed time. For me, things are improving. They are playing better together, better attack certainly. There are obviously still holes but the harder ground and time with each other have certainly had an affect.
Same has happened with Widnes. They were pretty much in the same position as us in terms of new players. They are getting it together now.

i would imagine both will be better next season if they can keep a core squad together over the off season.

Re: John Kear : Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:32 pm  

frogcat wrote:

nothing wrong with looking back, can learn a lot from the past. think a lot of people under estimate just how much jk did for wakefield imo top coach, top guy and i heard a whisper from a few different sources that he may be on his way back into sl next season. nothing concrete only something i have heard.

wouldn't surprise me if it was to replace Nathan Brown