Re: Belle vue bought : Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:08 pm  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

Looking at cheaper solutions, I guess something like the below (with a deeper roof) along the Western Terrace would be fit for purpose. I think it holds 1500 and is approximately a third of the touch line. This is Harrogate Railway so should be achievable for Trinity, especially if the link up with Wakefield FC opens up football grants.

Nice new East Stand with hospitality, basic seated stand south stand for away fans. Something like the above the full western terrace larger version for the North Stand and we have a nice fit for purpose stadium.

Up the Trin

Re: Belle vue bought : Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:16 pm  

Wakefield City wrote:

Nice new East Stand with hospitality, basic seated stand south stand for away fans. Something like the above the full western terrace larger version for the North Stand and we have a nice fit for purpose stadium.

Up the Trin

But it wouldn’t be it’s a temp stand the terrace is clearly made of metal - sorry but after 15 years battling for a community stadium we deserve better than a glorified bus shelter - remember we are actually owed a brand new 10000 seater stadium. I’m all for compromise but that’s abject surrender. Sorry but I feel very strongly about this - we shouldn’t allow ourselves to get short changed.

Re: Belle vue bought : Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:22 pm  

vastman wrote:

But it wouldn’t be it’s a temp stand the terrace is clearly made of metal - sorry but after 15 years battling for a community stadium we deserve better than a glorified bus shelter - remember we are actually owed a brand new 10000 seater stadium. I’m all for compromise but that’s abject surrender. Sorry but I feel very strongly about this - we shouldn’t allow ourselves to get short changed.

Agree.
Its all about the funding.
However, I am expecting certain people to put their hands in their pockets.........

Re: Belle vue bought : Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:13 am  

vastman wrote:

But it wouldn’t be it’s a temp stand the terrace is clearly made of metal - sorry but after 15 years battling for a community stadium we deserve better than a glorified bus shelter - remember we are actually owed a brand new 10000 seater stadium. I’m all for compromise but that’s abject surrender. Sorry but I feel very strongly about this - we shouldn’t allow ourselves to get short changed.

Couldn't agree more - we've gone from those fancy drawings, to begging for an aluminium bus shelter; as you say, abject surrender.

Re: Belle vue bought : Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:58 am  

Well I have heard Walker has recently started to show interest in the project again so make of it what you will.

Re: Belle vue bought : Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:01 am  

bren2k wrote:

Couldn't agree more - we've gone from those fancy drawings, to begging for an aluminium bus shelter; as you say, abject surrender.

I get the POV and support it in theory, however how long do we wait before those fancy drawing become reality. Time is not on our side, do we leave the Western Terrace as it is, or make a cheap improvement now while we wait for the funding to construct something better.

Re: Belle vue bought : Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:12 am  

Aren't we restricted on the height if what we can build in the western terrace.

Sure someone hold me that on the way down to the London game.

If so, does seem arrange that until 1985 there was a big stand there anyway.

Re: Belle vue bought : Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:43 am  

vastman wrote:

Correct, I’d rather it take as long as it takes rather than settle for that - we are a SL club. I know money is tight but we will have to do better than that.

Sorry Jinj and Klav I get your point but it’s a rung to low for me.

I get what you're saying but I'd like/expect the East stand to be the all singing all dancing stand. I'd have thought there might be planning restrictions for the West stand with houses being behind. If you can't go too deep or high then you don't have much scope for bars and food outlets underneath.

Re: Belle vue bought : Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:27 pm  

Eastern Wildcat wrote:

Aren't we restricted on the height if what we can build in the western terrace.

Sure someone hold me that on the way down to the London game.

If so, does seem arrange that until 1985 there was a big stand there anyway.

I’m not sure there is. A lot has to do with timing. Had we replaced the old west stand straight away we’d have been entitled replace with like for like. However now 30 odd years has passed since its demolition I don’t know if that still holds.

Basically I don’t think there is a legal restraint in place but I’m fairly sure there isn’t. What I do think is that if local residents objected they would nowadays have a far stronger case than the once dad.

What I would like to note is that imho we don’t need a fully covered ground, SL is a summer sport. If we redevelop the east stand to hold say 3k and the north stand is about 2k that’s cover for 5k straight away.

We don’t really need to offer more than 5k for now in the fear that rain might affect 2 games a year. Making BV a commercial venue is what really counts for now. Tuning the east stand/cats bar/south stand boxes into a genuine entertainment HUB that people really want to visit is imo the main priority.

Keeping a few 1000 folk dry twice a year is something to look at as and when. Don’t get me wrong I’d love it to be fully covered and we deserve it to be but these are the sort of compromises I’m on about - all in good time should be our motto.

Re: Belle vue bought : Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:37 pm  

there shouldn't be a problem with height as most denials for development tends to be if there's a restriction of light but in this case the sun comes from the other side so if it was pleasantly finished to wouldn't be an eye sore, anything has to be better than what they have to put up with now plus it would help keep noise levels down too