Re: Brough : Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:28 am  

Kirmudgeonly wrote:

I think one of our big problems is that when we got long term injuries to our two best ball carriers and surrogate forwards tupo and Johnstone we never adapted our game.

Partly due to injury but also it highlighted how ineffective some of our forwards were in actually going forward - the thing we now seem to have are forwards actually carting the ball up with strength and pace - kt green annikin and tangata have made a massive difference in that respect.

The style of play should of been changed accordingly not just carry on as though bill and TJ we're still playing

Re: Brough : Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:56 am  

MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:

The style of play should of been changed accordingly not just carry on as though bill and TJ we're still playing

agree with that ,

Re: Brough : Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:41 am  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

And then you woke up?

Meanwhile in the real world, Escare was buzzing.

Which parts regarding brough do you disagree about specifically? Are you saying brough doesn’t call the plays doesn’t defend well with aggression?
Isn’t a good field goal kicker?

Escare is nothing to do with the debate, he’s a Wigan player on loan

Re: Brough : Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:22 am  

upthecats wrote:

But Brough and Miller were the halves when we won 6 out of our first 10 putting us there...

Rocky and Reynolds played 4 games together...2 wins...26-24 at home to Leeds and 26-25 away at Huddersfeild...and two defeats 28-26 away at Cas and 30-14 away at Hull so they hardly set the world alight?

If you look back through the season and our 6 best performances in terms of points scored and margin of victory...

Hull KR (a) - Won 38-10
Hudds (h) - Won 36-10
Hull (a) - Won 32-12
Leeds (a) Won 35-18
Salford (h) Won 33-22
Wigan (h) Won 30-20

Brough and Miller were the halves in those games...which only goes to prove...they CAN play well together when the whole team does.

Yep, agree with all that. I know he'll never be everyones' cup of tea, but I was more than happy with Brough and pleasantly surprised with how he was playing until he got injured.......which leads me onto, how many of these players have looked anywhere near back to their best since they have returned from injury??? Tupou and Ashurst injured again, maybe unlucky I guess, but I think a complete overhaul of conditioning & possibly rehab needs looking at in the off season

Re: Brough : Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:01 pm  

musson wrote:

Which parts regarding brough do you disagree about specifically? Are you saying brough doesn’t call the plays doesn’t defend well with aggression?
Isn’t a good field goal kicker?

Escare is nothing to do with the debate, he’s a Wigan player on loan

His kicking game was no better on Sunday than recent. The controversial Marshal try came following one of many poor last tackle choices.

When you used the word "Buzzing" IMHO Escare was the only guy who I would associate with that word on Sunday. General play throughout but specifically backing up Tanginoa for the 2nd try (which I thought Miller unbelievably almost blew) and setting up BJB for last.

Re: Brough : Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:22 pm  

Miller has been much better recently, he is taking the line on and having a go.

Re: Brough : Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:58 pm  

A good scrum half should be able to overcome any weaknesses in the pack. It is only necessary to look at Salford, their pack is not the strongest but Hastings make the whole team look stronger. I regret that Brough no longer provides the same overall team improvements

Re: Brough : Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:47 pm  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

His kicking game was no better on Sunday than recent. The controversial Marshal try came following one of many poor last tackle choices.

When you used the word "Buzzing" IMHO Escare was the only guy who I would associate with that word on Sunday. General play throughout but specifically backing up Tanginoa for the 2nd try (which I thought Miller unbelievably almost blew) and setting up BJB for last.

I will concede that re the last tackle option that lead to the escare try
Kicking towards Hampshire and tanganoa was never on

Disagree re miller though
Thought he was excellent

Re: Brough : Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:29 pm  

musson wrote:

Disagree re miller though
Thought he was excellent

Just mentioning that one incident as part of my Escare bit.