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A little puzzled. : Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:52 pm  
Whilst not wanting to create disbelief, I am a little puzzled over 600k taken off Mani, who got that money ? Says authorities ?
Is that the police & treasury or the council, is the latter being local tax's paid & re-paid back ? All due to its not Mani's money ?
So, question why does trin owe that sum & pay interest on it to the council ????
I suppose we will never know !!
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Re: A little puzzled. : Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:13 pm  
TrinTrin wrote:
Whilst not wanting to create disbelief, I am a little puzzled over 600k taken off Mani, who got that money ? Says authorities ?
Is that the police & treasury or the council, is the latter being local tax's paid & re-paid back ? All due to its not Mani's money ?
So, question why does trin owe that sum & pay interest on it to the council ????
I suppose we will never know !!


No we won’t so why bother, let it go, it’s nothing to do with us it’s a job for the police.
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Re: A little puzzled. : Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:42 pm  
Govt = unexplained wealth confiscation.

Point was - media keep saying we paid over the going rate and infer that we were complicit in defrauding the tax payer.

1, The going rate is whatever someone will pay.

2, It cost Manni £2.4m to get the package of land - we paid £3m. A profit of that amount is not uncommon in any way = we did not pay over the odds.
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Re: A little puzzled. : Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:33 am  
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Govt = unexplained wealth confiscation.

Point was - media keep saying we paid over the going rate and infer that we were complicit in defrauding the tax payer.

1, The going rate is whatever someone will pay.

2, It cost Manni £2.4m to get the package of land - we paid £3m. A profit of that amount is not uncommon in any way = we did not pay over the odds.


Spot on. Fraudster or not he’s going to want to sell for more. Not sure he paid 2.4 million but maybe he did.

At the end of the day we needed the land and he wanted a profit, nothing suspicious about that.

Why we were originally told not to bother, that’s the story, but that would require some serious effort from the police and the press, not really the style of the latter, whilst the former has better things to do at the moment.
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Re: A little puzzled. : Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:39 pm  
TrinTrin wrote:
Whilst not wanting to create disbelief, I am a little puzzled over 600k taken off Mani, who got that money ? Says authorities ?
Is that the police & treasury or the council, is the latter being local tax's paid & re-paid back ? All due to its not Mani's money ?
So, question why does trin owe that sum & pay interest on it to the council ????
I suppose we will never know !!


Proceeds of crime.
"Taken" off him - well, actually given up by him to avoid prison.
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Re: A little puzzled. : Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:54 pm  
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Proceeds of crime.
"Taken" off him - well, actually given up by him to avoid prison.


It's not "proceeds of crime", as he has never been convicted of anything.

You're right to say he has "given the money up", via an "Unexplained Wealth Order".

I wonder what beans he spilled to keep himself out of prison?

If charged and convicted, he would have lost the money anyway (proceeds of crime), so it's about more than just the money.
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Re: A little puzzled. : Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:00 pm  
"The NCA today defended the decision to settle the Hussain case, saying Manni Hussain had been left with virtually nothing other than heavily mortgaged properties - and it had saved the taxpayer time and money by discouraging him from launching a potentially long and expensive legal battle. Investigators say that the settlement included no promise to Mr Hussain that he would not be investigated again in the future." BBC

So maybe not prosecuted to save a big, costly trial - but knows he can't risk being caught again?

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