Re: Hull KR : Sun May 08, 2022 11:25 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Money and an excellent coach.

On the plus side, perhaps our narrow loss to Huddersfield wasn't the nightmare performance that many on here suggested.
It was their defence that won the game, helped by finishing most of their sets on their opponents line.

KR were unlucky with injuries and their gamble with Linnet was the wrong call.

Saw a couple of quotes in a discussion between two a hudds fans suggesting the win at Trinity was their best away performance for years… I think the conversation was in a set of comments on a YouTube video…

Re: Hull KR : Sun May 08, 2022 12:27 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Money and an excellent coach.

On the plus side, perhaps our narrow loss to Huddersfield wasn't the nightmare performance that many on here suggested.
It was their defence that won the game, helped by finishing most of their sets on their opponents line.

KR were unlucky with injuries and their gamble with Linnet was the wrong call.

Sorry but money tends to help you look more excellent. He is clearly a good coach but with Ken’s backing so would most.

Had Kear, Toppo or even Kelly for example had that money we might have had a third star on our jersey by now. No coach at Trinity has ever had any real money since the sixties and certainly not over a long period. So excellence is relative.

Re: Hull KR : Sun May 08, 2022 3:34 pm  

I'm finding it difficult to credit Shudds with the win based entirely on their own endeavours.
HK were abysmal, but you can only beat what's put in front of you.
If Shudds strangled them out the game, they did so after HK placed the noose around their own necks and jumped.
Does that translate to Shudds providing a sterner test to the the Pies than Saints, I don't think so.
Whilst I'd love somebody outside the elite to win the tin pot, its still the pies by 20 I reckon, I do hope its closer though.

Re: Hull KR : Sun May 08, 2022 7:07 pm  

Spookisback wrote:

I agree with this… I’ve just seen the highlights and Hudds looked in total control… solid, creative and clinical …

Stoked for Innes Senior as he streaked down the touch line… thought he looked really promising whilst on loan. HKR looked lost without Coote… although they were a bit unlucky with injuries…

Wigan look good…

Wigan did look good and had the bounce of a ball that wins you matches .Think some thing we could learn from Wigan is the way Farall ran as near to the ref as he could when scoring is try The St defender coming across had to change direction because of the refs position .Seen it happen a few times now in matches .Wires scored a try against us were the player ran at the gap that was there because of the gap were the ref was stood

Re: Hull KR : Tue May 10, 2022 7:38 am  

alegend wrote:

Wigan did look good and had the bounce of a ball that wins you matches .Think some thing we could learn from Wigan is the way Farall ran as near to the ref as he could when scoring is try The St defender coming across had to change direction because of the refs position .Seen it happen a few times now in matches .Wires scored a try against us were the player ran at the gap that was there because of the gap were the ref was stood

Smarts alegend. Just being very clever. Farrell though has much more in his locker than that. Consistently one of if not the best back rower in England who does everything extremely well. It’s scary to think that he’s actually old enough to be playing against me in a game of masters rugby league, he’s a top notch professional and opposition fans didn’t like him simply because of his name and being Andy’s cousin. The amount of people who say he is over rated is unbelievable. I’d say he’s massively under rated, his attacking skills often get lauded but his defensive work is just as impressive and the man’s a leader.

Re: Hull KR : Tue May 10, 2022 9:07 am  

vastman wrote:

Sorry but money tends to help you look more excellent. He is clearly a good coach but with Ken’s backing so would most.

Had Kear, Toppo or even Kelly for example had that money we might have had a third star on our jersey by now. No coach at Trinity has ever had any real money since the sixties and certainly not over a long period. So excellence is relative.

Tbf, they've had Ken's brass for years but, haven't exactly got a cabinet full of trophies.
Also, look at Warrington, spending shed loads of cash and not winning much.

Clearly, you want to have as much as you rivals but, without a decent coach, you will win rock all.

Re: Hull KR : Tue May 10, 2022 10:57 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Tbf, they've had Ken's brass for years but, haven't exactly got a cabinet full of trophies.
Also, look at Warrington, spending shed loads of cash and not winning much.

Clearly, you want to have as much as you rivals but, without a decent coach, you will win rock all.

Which just shows how tricky it is. There is so much more to success than the one-dimensional ideas some fans have.

However, I still contend that with money you can flatter to deceive. Also as the Hudds fan on here stated, this has been building over a fair few seasons. We'll be able to judge that better in a few weeks I suppose.

Worth noting that it's not that long ago that Saints under Cunningham and especially were totally in the doldrums and it was cash that ultimately got them out of it. Ditto, it's only three years since we were back up there but lack of money has ensured we've stayed down.

Re: Hull KR : Tue May 10, 2022 4:08 pm  

vastman wrote:

Worth noting that it's not that long ago that Saints under Cunningham and especially were totally in the doldrums and it was cash that ultimately got them out of it. Ditto, it's only three years since we were back up there but lack of money has ensured we've stayed down.

I often wonder what would have happened with Saints had they not benefited from that last minute win against us. Holbrooke's 1st season in charge and no play off place and things might have panned out different for them not to mention for us.

Re: Hull KR : Tue May 10, 2022 4:26 pm  

Uptoncat wrote:

Smarts alegend. Just being very clever. Farrell though has much more in his locker than that. Consistently one of if not the best back rower in England who does everything extremely well. It’s scary to think that he’s actually old enough to be playing against me in a game of masters rugby league, he’s a top notch professional and opposition fans didn’t like him simply because of his name and being Andy’s cousin. The amount of people who say he is over rated is unbelievable. I’d say he’s massively under rated, his attacking skills often get lauded but his defensive work is just as impressive and the man’s a leader.

Not having a go at Farrell put a post on a Topic were I said he as been one of the best over the last 5 year

Re: Hull KR : Tue May 10, 2022 6:15 pm  

alegend wrote:

Not having a go at Farrell put a post on a Topic were I said he as been one of the best over the last 5 year

I’m not saying you are but lots of people over the years have said how over rated he is which to me is completely baffling.