What next? : Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:32 am  

Is it just going to be more of the same or are we going to bring in an experienced coach who can motivate the players and put some attacking structure in place or are we going to keep taking other clubs rejects and short term second division French players and expecting a miracle. When are we going to hear something from the club?

Re: What next? : Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:09 am  

Hopwood wrote:

Is it just going to be more of the same or are we going to bring in an experienced coach who can motivate the players and put some attacking structure in place or are we going to keep taking other clubs rejects and short term second division French players and expecting a miracle. When are we going to hear something from the club?

I think we'd benefit from another fans forum night, we held one last year when we were in (IMO) a much better position than we are now.

That said we'd only see a benefit if there was something for the club to reassure fans with, new signings, plans from Mash, positives.

Re: What next? : Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:15 am  

Hopwood wrote:

Is it just going to be more of the same or are we going to bring in an experienced coach who can motivate the players and put some attacking structure in place or are we going to keep taking other clubs rejects and short term second division French players and expecting a miracle. When are we going to hear something from the club?

I was thinking about this yesterday. To be honest there’s three options.

1. Change the coach.
2. Boost the playing squad.
3. Cut costs as much as possible with a view to remaining full time and being the front runner in championship 2024 - prepping early by retaining our youth and best players on SL/Championship agreements.

Both will cost. If we are to change the coach then I’d like to see Apelgarth back to assistant but there’s no point changing unless it’s a strong experienced coach. No Danny Wards or Radford etc. it needs to be a quality appointment.

If that’s not an option then there needs to be at least a plan to get our season going. The simple fact is that in the team there are passengers at the moment who should be leaders but are making errors and not performing to SL standard.

The right edge was appalling yesterday and not for the first time. All breaks and try’s came through the Lyne/Smith/Hewitt combination.

Lyne/Ashurst I have been incredibly disappointed with this season. Lyne looks a shadow of himself and checks his run jinking on the spot instead of running his weight which I have to say he doesn’t look very mobile for a back these days. He also shoots in way too much leaving Kershaw high and dry. I expect better from him.

I have backed Kay for the 9 role for a good while but I’m afraid after last few weeks I find him lacking in that role or certainly with us not on the front foot enough. Can’t see how Bowes doesn’t get in ahead of him. I won’t ever knock Kay for effort though.

I think radical changes are needed at the moment in the squad. The likes of Eseh/Bowes need to play I think now too.

Id like to see Shaw and Croft brought back. We are paying them anyway so just agree a contract with both and bring Croft into centre and Shaw for prop. Croft actually came good back end of last season in centre. We desperately need more pave and mobility out wide too and he has that. As we are already paying them it wouldn’t take a whole lot more imo.

People are giving Proctor a hard time. He’s not the issue. Teams carve us up on the edge all year. Though I want to see more from Proctor he doesn’t miss tackles, works hard and puts solid shifts in. The issue is further out.

If Mash is going to stay some positions need shaking up that’s for sure.

Re: What next? : Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:30 pm  

Hopefully some honest conversations with certain players from Applegarth will lead them to do the honourable thing and leave the club and go back to Australia giving an opportunity for the club to bring in an experienced 6 like Corey Norman.

Re: What next? : Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:33 pm  

Is this right? Why are we still paying Croft and Shaw?

Re: What next? : Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:46 pm  

Proctor. You can’t be serious! 20 minutes a game, he gives nothing and offers even less. Stealing money as is the waster Atoni. Go home both please and take Taufua with you.

Re: What next? : Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:02 pm  

What next indeed! When Mash was appointed, I bought into the plan of an exciting young coach who'd done well with the juniors and, from some accounts, had played a big hand in getting those crucial 5/6 wins at the end of last season.Whether that last bit is true,i've no idea, but it would be nice to get the definitive tale from someone someday.I thought the trial matches were very mixed, happy with the way we played second half v Fev,but also a little worried how Halifax opened us up in the first match, and dismayed how Hull steam rollered us in the last match,even taking into account all the juniors we had playing.I was less than impressed with our start to the season, but kept looking for small signs of improvements in ensuing games, but they never really happened,and in fact I'm now resigned to getting relegated.I know the team is crap,but even so there doesn't seem to be any structures.
So,and it gives me no pleasure to say it, we need a new coach immediately! If,and I suspect this may be the case, we decide to keep Mash on to build a new team in the Championship,all I can say is that if he can't do it now, he won't do it then either,IMO.

Re: What next? : Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:05 pm  

[quote="RWB"]Is this right? Why are we still paying Croft and Shaw?[/quote Can’t imagine Shaw ever coming back to Trinity after this statement https://www.totalrl.com/ex-wakefield-tr ... -leopards/

[quote="RWB"]Is this right? Why are we still paying Croft and Shaw?[/quote Can’t imagine Shaw ever coming back to Trinity after this statement https://www.totalrl.com/ex-wakefield-tr ... -leopards/

Re: What next? : Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:09 pm  

Manuel wrote:

Proctor. You can’t be serious! 20 minutes a game, he gives nothing and offers even less. Stealing money as is the waster Atoni. Go home both please and take Taufua with you.

It's a nice thought but why would they walk away from their guaranteed money? They ain't getting a gig eleswhere so would only lose out financially if they accepted a pay off. We'd have to offer them pretty much the full amount to tempt them which we can't afford to do then go get a replacement. So unless one is majorly homesick, can't wait 6 months and walks then it's not going to happen.

Re: What next? : Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:15 pm  

Let's put it this way Carter and Co must be prepared to take a hit no other way out. I suppose if you look at how much can be lost if they do nothing and then get relegated it's a simple choice.