: Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:09 pm  

dholli12 wrote:

Im glad John only offered them what HE thought they were worth. This year we dealt with the loss of Big Dunc so im sure John knows what he is doing. Lets not panic, so far the recruitment for this year has been the best i can remember!!

If we do a deal with Huddersfield for Korkidas then Wilkes may have found it difficult to get game time in the front row next season.

Moore, Stosic, Tronc, Korkidas & Bibb would all be fighting for a place with Wilkes

Snitch is a loss, he's been great this year but something inside me tells me he would have struggled to maintain that level of performance for two years running. No logic to that just instinct so please don't ask me to explain.
except:
Many players perform above their normal standards when their future depends on it, if Steve Snitch only had a one year deal this may have applied to him. With the security of a three year deal behind him he might not be able to raise his levels of intensity in the same way as he has this year.

All the same thats just me speculating, on the evidence of his year back at Trinity he will be missed by us and welcomed by Cas as a good signing.

So good luck Steve.

: Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:39 pm  

As for Wilkes, well i believe he is replaceable. He has a good work ethic and has improved his ball carrying immensly. But those are traits you can find in many players. It isn't something which is rare to come across. I appreciate he's played well this season but there are players out there who can do a job and probably for less then he wanted.

: Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:53 pm  

vastman wrote:

For crying out loud - so once at Wakey you can never leave

Perhaps we should call it Hotel California not Belle Vue.

" You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave"

Re: losing the engine room of the team?? : Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:56 pm  

newgroundb4cas wrote:

Snitch and Olay Wilkes have great engines on them and work really hard every single week. I think both of these are losses to the team. Snitch especially this year he has shown he can offload, run hard, pass, tackle, play hard for 80mins. Ferres had probably 3 of those things at the most thats why he wasn't a loss. Snitch has impressed me this year. I bet cas offered 20 thousand more than us thats why we have probably lost him. Wilkes at 29 is a loss but replacable but he has showed some amazing effort for us and I will miss Olay's 5 star effort. Question is can we replace there work rate and arguably the engine room of the team. Shame to see the back of them.

The pack...

Wilkes, Snitch, Bibey and Drew out...

Morrison, Tronc, Newton in...

Korkidas, Possibly/Hopefully in...

added to... Moore, Stosic, Fergi, Bibb, JD, Latu, hendo

rumoured ins...Paul johnson, can play at 2,3,4,5,11 & 12

Possible starting pack...

Korki Newton Tronc
Fergi JD
Morrison

Replacements

Moore, Stosic, Latu

and when injuries set in, Bibb, Hendo, Johnson and if it gets down to it, millard can turn out at 11, 12 or 13, but i imagin he will be atkins replacement.
Also, i think some of the young lads weve signed up full time are packmen.

so, the answer youre looking for is yes...plenty in the pack for me at this time.

If we dont sign korki from shudds, id like to see us bring in a strike prop

Re: losing the engine room of the team?? : Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:10 pm  

BelleVueLifer wrote:

The pack...

Wilkes, Snitch, Bibey and Drew out...

Morrison, Tronc, Newton in...

Korkidas, Possibly/Hopefully in...

added to... Moore, Stosic, Fergi, Bibb, JD, Latu, hendo

rumoured ins...Paul johnson, can play at 2,3,4,5,11 & 12

Possible starting pack...

Korki Newton Tronc
Fergi JD
Morrison

Replacements

Moore, Stosic, Latu

and when injuries set in, Bibb, Hendo, Johnson and if it gets down to it, millard can turn out at 11, 12 or 13, but i imagin he will be atkins replacement.
Also, i think some of the young lads weve signed up full time are packmen.

so, the answer youre looking for is yes...plenty in the pack for me at this time.

If we dont sign korki from shudds, id like to see us bring in a strike prop

Marsden says that he's coming on loan for the season, so that must be so Another hudds fan confirmed this today.

Re: losing the engine room of the team?? : Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:25 pm  

newgroundb4cas wrote:

Snitch and Olay Wilkes have great engines on them and work really hard every single week. I think both of these are losses to the team. Snitch especially this year he has shown he can offload, run hard, pass, tackle, play hard for 80mins. Ferres had probably 3 of those things at the most thats why he wasn't a loss. Snitch has impressed me this year. I bet cas offered 20 thousand more than us thats why we have probably lost him. Wilkes at 29 is a loss but replacable but he has showed some amazing effort for us and I will miss Olay's 5 star effort. Question is can we replace there work rate and arguably the engine room of the team. Shame to see the back of them.

Any reasoning behind that, because trust me cas arent a rich club 9in fact i was rather suprised we had a higher bis than you after, losing out on petersen and stosic).

Re: losing the engine room of the team?? : Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:26 pm  

newgroundb4cas wrote:

Snitch and Olay Wilkes have great engines on them and work really hard every single week. I think both of these are losses to the team. Snitch especially this year he has shown he can offload, run hard, pass, tackle, play hard for 80mins. Ferres had probably 3 of those things at the most thats why he wasn't a loss. Snitch has impressed me this year. I bet cas offered 20 thousand more than us thats why we have probably lost him. Wilkes at 29 is a loss but replacable but he has showed some amazing effort for us and I will miss Olay's 5 star effort. Question is can we replace there work rate and arguably the engine room of the team. Shame to see the back of them.

For once I'd half agree with you over Snitch, if that was proven the case. However, that is a big if. Who's to say he had any intention of staying here? He's previous leaving hardly suggested he was a club stalwart. As a player, yes he offers far more than replacing Dunc, etc, but you can only keep a player if they want to stay.

As far as Wilkes is concerned, he's replacable. If his price has risen so that he is no longer value for money, let him go.

: Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:26 pm  

desmond decker wrote:

get a season ticket for cas for gawds sake

We dont want him (for a start his name would be weird then), but you could always send him to fev, thats where we send our rejects

: Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:32 pm  

newgroundb4cas wrote:

Snitch and Olay Wilkes have great engines on them and work really hard every single week. I think both of these are losses to the team. Snitch especially this year he has shown he can offload, run hard, pass, tackle, play hard for 80mins. Ferres had probably 3 of those things at the most thats why he wasn't a loss. Snitch has impressed me this year. I bet cas offered 20 thousand more than us thats why we have probably lost him. Wilkes at 29 is a loss but replacable but he has showed some amazing effort for us and I will miss Olay's 5 star effort. Question is can we replace there work rate and arguably the engine room of the team. Shame to see the back of them.

You really need to chill out fella, yes Snitch & Wilkes have both had good seasons but we’re not parley to contract negotiations. A three year contract can put a player in the comfort zone, which we can ill afford, and lets be fair, neither of them are a Gaz Ellis or a Solo, but we’ve still progressed.

newgroundb4cas wrote:

Only bad business deal john has done was losing Fox so i do trust JK he is a awesome coach. Magilvary we would allways cope he was just a great tackler. Snitch has plenty of attributes. I just think Snitch in the 2nd row on his £ who is going to be better?

If we had a poll on JK’s bad business deals, I’d go for Reilly.

: Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:36 pm  

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

You really need to chill out fella, yes Snitch & Wilkes have both had good seasons but we’re not parley to contract negotiations. A three year contract can put a player in the comfort zone, which we can ill afford, and lets be fair, neither of them are a Gaz Ellis or a Solo, but we’ve still progressed.





If we had a poll on JK’s bad business deals, I’d go for Reilly.

rumour was that that was ferres though no?