: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:36 pm  

Trinity Till Death wrote:

I'm wondering whether playing Westwood or even Ellis in the centre's maybe worthwhile. Like you say we have to impose ourselves and rattle a couple of cages like Newton use to do!

that opens up another option by playing them in the centres, we need speed from the start but with strength in the tackle guile would come through Eastmond and Tomkins both young but willing to be given the chance McGuire might even be a steady ship for them

: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:40 pm  

Trinity Till Death wrote:

I'm wondering whether playing Westwood or even Ellis in the centre's maybe worthwhile. Like you say we have to impose ourselves and rattle a couple of cages like Newton use to do!

I can see the argument for going with that, but the mobility of the aussie back line I could Westwood extra size might make it harder to impose himself. I can see why Smith thinks Smith is a possible solution, but its clutching at straws.

The main problem is still the halves, our defence is going to get no respite with the lack of kicking game and anonymity in organisation that was shown against the French. Here's hoping Broughy got a call, but I can't see it.

: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:44 pm  

LewHart wrote:

two words...the first word starts with D and the second starts with B

Don't Botherturningup ?

: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:58 pm  

Just take their heads off

: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:59 pm  

Select more Warrington players?

: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:25 am  

LewHart wrote:

two words...the first word starts with D and the second starts with B

As much as I like DB he'd be way out of his depth unfortunately. He'd be eaten alive by the Aussies and Kiwis.

: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:42 am  

Nuke anything south of Birmingham?

: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:46 am  

charlie wrote:

Just take their heads off

Agreed. Can't run without their heads.

: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:53 am  

To be honest i do not think physically they are that far ahead, but mentally they are miles ahead, they are more comitted, more pasionate, more intimidating, more confident, prouder and more aggresive........England simply as they have for the last 20 years look apathetic, this mentality will take years to correct not a few short weeks in short.........we are going to need a bigger boat!

: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:53 am  

jonh wrote:

To be honest i do not think physically they are that far ahead, but mentally they are miles ahead, they are more comitted, more pasionate, more intimidating, more confident, prouder and more aggresive........England simply as they have for the last 20 years look apathetic, this mentality will take years to correct not a few short weeks in short.........we are going to need a bigger boat!

the forwards are simalar in development the backs are on a different planet