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Re: Video ref : Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:53 am  
The point I was making was that RU use their video ref correctly, we dont. Its impossible for an on field ref to get it 100 % correct and when your team is not on sky you just have to accept that the refs are Human and doing their best. When a match is televised and the video ref is in place there is no reason for human error. I am not moaning about decisions, i just want us to use the technology as well as they do in RU. Watch the Lions in the morning and the communication between video ref and onfield ref is great, the game continues while the video refs checks things out and keeps the on field ref updated.
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Re: Video ref : Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:55 am  
Davc1h wrote:
Yes mate not saying you have, its more a general comment.

Whether a try or no try why did he not go to the screen, he did with others like the BJB obstruction. Which BTW, I thought was probably the correct decision.

No Wakey fans have mentioned the tackle in the air decisions but then say Cas got all the 50/50s.

Each teams fans always think they have been hard done by, its human nature. :) :)



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The tackle in the air penalty where BJB went down hard was I thought a tough call on Cas as both players were competing for the ball, just that BJB ended up catching it and then landing awkwardly due to the collision - should not have been a penalty IMO
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Re: Video ref : Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:03 pm  
Davc1h wrote:
Yes mate not saying you have, its more a general comment.

Whether a try or no try why did he not go to the screen, he did with others like the BJB obstruction. Which BTW, I thought was probably the correct decision.

No Wakey fans have mentioned the tackle in the air decisions but then say Cas got all the 50/50s.

Each teams fans always think they have been hard done by, its human nature. :) :)


I don't think it should have been a Wakey penalty when BJB was allegedly tackled in the air. Looked like both players were both going fairly for the ball. Think referees generally just panic and give a penalty when someone stays down. I think I know which over tackled in the air incident you are talking about, the one where Cas caught it on the Wakey line on the 5th tackle? If so, right decision that time, both were competing for the ball. Maybe Cas could have got a penalty if they milked it.
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Re: Video ref : Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:03 pm  
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I also think he was referring to the one on Minikin at the opposite side where he caught the ball and was tackled in the air and Kendall gave a handover.
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Re: Video ref : Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:06 pm  
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You are correct about the knock on from Hadley, Shenton knocked it out.



He did knock it out but in the process of effecting the tackle - it wasn't a deliberate play at the ball. From what I recall, Hadley may have tried offloading at the time and Shenton's come in from the side and walloped it in the opposite direction when wrapping his arm around. This is where "interpretation" comes in - and the ref, to be fair, was blocked in his view too of that.

I'll have to watch back again on that incident but being a Cas fan, it's harsh to call it a knock-on but without a deliberate play then that's what it is.
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Re: Video ref : Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:08 pm  
[quote="Fordy"][/quote]

Apologies Fordy, missed that.
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Re: Video ref : Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:25 pm  
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He did knock it out but in the process of effecting the tackle - it wasn't a deliberate play at the ball. From what I recall, Hadley may have tried offloading at the time and Shenton's come in from the side and walloped it in the opposite direction when wrapping his arm around. This is where "interpretation" comes in - and the ref, to be fair, was blocked in his view too of that.

I'll have to watch back again on that incident but being a Cas fan, it's harsh to call it a knock-on but without a deliberate play then that's what it is.

If I'm thinking of the right incident, Hadley did indeed intend offloading backwards, Shentons hand intentionally or not did play the ball but it went backwards, the knock on came from I think Eden, as he picked up the ball he pushed it forward a tad.
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Re: Video ref : Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:27 pm  
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I also thought Fifita was taken out when attempting to get across and charge down Gale's drop goal but haven't watched that back as yet.


Fifita was not square at marker. It should of really been a penalty to Cas.

I thought Wakey were good value for at least a draw last night, I thought you out enthused us. We looked knackered and lacking in any real ideas in the first half.
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Re: Video ref : Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:39 pm  
Just watched this and Fafita is square and does get taken out. Was a penalty which would seem us playing the last 60 seconds in Cas half. Very poor and we should put a complaint in. Won't change anything but perhaps they might think twice before sending that useless tool to officiate ours games this season.
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Re: Video ref : Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:03 pm  
Fully wrote:
I also think he was referring to the one on Minikin at the opposite side where he caught the ball and was tackled in the air and Kendall gave a handover.


Minikin should've stayed down and rubbed is neck. Worked for Will Dagger last week.
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