Re: SNEYD : Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:59 pm  

Redscat wrote:

Know what you mean Vasty re Williams. Any young player coming into the Wigan first team and has one good game is automatically pencilled in as a future GB player, and is ultimately played whether he has fully made the grade or not. The same a[plies to Leedds youngsters and prospects from lower clubs get overlooked. That's what happened with Broughie. A great natural scrum half but had to opt for Ireland because berks like Mcnamara were in charge of England selection.

Doesn't Brough play for Scotland with Tom?

Re: SNEYD : Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:07 pm  

djcool wrote:

Doesn't Brough play for Scotland with Tom?

Just testing dj. Oh! By the way: you passed!!!

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Re: SNEYD : Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:23 pm  

They are just different styles for me.
Williams is a exceptional runner and slightly above average passer and kicker.
When you put him with an organiser and a dominant pack he is outstanding.

Sneyd is an exceptional kicker and above average passer and organiser
Kelly will be good for him.

Partnerships make halfbacks.

Gregory and Edwards were great together. Edwards wouldn't have been as good without Gregory. He eventually developed into an organiser too but was a long way off when younger.
If you have a Steadman you need a Fox
If you have a Paul, you need a Deacon
If you have a Miller you need a Finn

Even Wally Lewis played better with a Mark Murray or an Alfie Langer. He ran the show, they ran and chipped away on the back of his play. When he played with Sterlo, they were both great but they kind of got in each others way.
Sterlo and Kenny....perfect for each other

Re: SNEYD : Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:37 pm  

I thought he had a much better 2nd half than 1st. His kicking on the last in the first half wasn't great.

Re: SNEYD : Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:34 am  

Mable_Syrup wrote:

I thought he had a much better 2nd half than 1st. His kicking on the last in the first half wasn't great.

Thought it was exceptional in both halves to be honest.

Re: SNEYD : Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:39 am  

They seemed to be too far to get any kick pressure and always found the man waiting to catch it. Never made it hard to deal with. Second half was great. That 40/20 was beautiful

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Re: SNEYD : Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:10 pm  

He rarely kicked straight to hands. His first half was different to simply establish field position.
His short kicks worked better close to the line.

He is also working to the team strengths.
It might not work the same for a team like ours
We have fast wingers so good passing is the key to our game.
With tall, well muscled wingers like they have, getting a 1-1 on the air is perfect tactics.

Re: SNEYD : Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:40 pm  

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He rarely kicked straight to hands.

He's an absolutely top class kicker. Probably the best in SL.

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Re: SNEYD : Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:08 pm  

jakeyg95 wrote:

He's an absolutely top class kicker. Probably the best in SL.

He doesn't seem to need to put much effort into it either. His 40-20 was hardly noticeable as he looked like he was just dropping it over the top but it went right to the flag.
I guess it's like a golf swing. If you have the technique you don't need as much power and you keep your accuracy.

Re: SNEYD : Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:42 pm  

PopTart wrote:

He doesn't seem to need to put much effort into it either. His 40-20 was hardly noticeable as he looked like he was just dropping it over the top but it went right to the flag.
I guess it's like a golf swing. If you have the technique you don't need as much power and you keep your accuracy.

The last player who I saw who kicked that effortlessly was Nigel Wright. He used to kick 40/20s when they din't even exist. He kicked that far for territory and the chance to win a contested scrum - it's a natural gift imho and very rare.

Against the Aussies I see a great kicking game as possibly the only chance we have of breaking them down. Nothing frustrates the Aussies more than not having the ball in hand as much as they like. Kick them to death, they won't like it.