Re: Season Stats : Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:46 am  

Finn is most likely to be dominated in the tackle and targeted as such, therefore will be susceptible to giving away more technical penalties in the tackle/ruck to compensate.

Similar in the NRL where players such as Maloney etc are heavily penalised.

Re: Season Stats : Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:38 pm  

PopTart wrote:

For the season, before the semis, so equal number of games

Finished 5th in the league
Won 16 lost 14 (3 wins out of 7 in super 8s)
We scored 99 tries, with a +97 points difference (5th best in both stats)
Tackles 7,918 with 622 missed Giving 92.71% success (8th in the league)
4th in clean breaks and 4th in average metre gain.

Conceded 196 penalties (7th lowest) No reds 3 yellows (2nd best)

Tryscorer

Ben Jones-Bishop was top try scorer with 20 tries
In the whole league BJB was 3rd, MCB was 10th with 17 tries Bill Tupou was 18th with 13 tries.

Obviously we saw Keegan score his first try yesterday.
The only players that didn't score this season out of all 30 who played are Hassan, Walker, Walker, Allgood, Crowther, Sio and Annakin...............not sure they can be blamed with so little game time. Annakin having the most. Sio had 1 assist.

Kirmond scored most tries in the forwards with 5.

Tackler
Ashurst topped the tackle count with 952 (6th in the league) with 42 misses giving him a 95.96% hit rate
Of those over 500 tackles Fifita was most consistent with 598 tackles at 96.45% hit rate
Arona 96.04% and Hadley 96%

Carries
Fifita made most carries with 389, 54 better than anyone else at Wakefield and 11th in the league, and also the best average gain per drive of the Wakefield forwards.
TJ had the best average gain with 9.56 metres.

BJB best in clean breaks with 30. ...3rd across the league

Fifita gave away 27 penalties (followed by Finn at 20 which surprises me)

Not bad at all.
I know they're not the be all and end all but I do love me some stats. I've been following ours throughout the season and one of the issues I think we had last year, was meters made and average gain by the forwards, we just didn't have the grunt in the pack to stick it some teams. This year as a group & individually they've all been far better and you can physically see that we've got a huge pack know and it's done the bsiness most of the year. More forwards this year with an AG of 7 meters plus, whereas last year only Fifita managed it. Fifta also manged 103 tackle Busts this year, 2nd of any Prop in the League, 6h overall.

I also noticed that Hirsts' stats improved as the season went on and went from a mid 6's AG to 7.62 meters, second in the forwards to just Fifita, hopefully he can keep improving.

Got to mention Bill Tupou and what a consitant season he's had, made over 3000 meters, AG of 9.34, 13 tries, 6 Assists,42 tackle busts, 21 Clean breaks, and 277 tackles.

Re: Season Stats : Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:31 pm  

Great stats, thanks Pop Tart. It highlights areas for improvement and therefore signings that might address it, but I am sure our coaches know that. To add to that, I don't know what our stats on 6th tackle plays, especially near the line are. I have felt that we are not as good as the other top 6 on that. We are often not patient in attack and do not keep the hand to the throat when we have the other side on their line. Getting repeat sets ...the stat on that would be interesting. It doesn't stand out in my mind as something that a top 5 side, as we are ....are as good as we should be at.

Re: Season Stats : Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:50 pm  

It would be interesting to see a stat on back to back tries; Cas have excelled at doing that this year - it's obviously a deliberate strategy - and it's a real hammer blow to the opposition when they make two quick scores and pull away on the board. I'd like to see us with some set plays from our own half that could produce something similar - we certainly have the pace out wide to pull it off.

And I'd agree that last tackle plays need to be better - too many kicks to nowt - although there aren't many who can do what Gale and Sneyd do with the boot.

Re: Season Stats : Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:30 pm  

...mind you, I'll say this, it's a lot easier to analyse our performances now there's a lot less wrong with them!

Re: Season Stats : Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:58 pm  

charlie63wildcat wrote:

...mind you, I'll say this, it's a lot easier to analyse our performances now there's a lot less wrong with them!

That's very true; I'm a big advocate of the marginal gains method that Dave Brailsford used with so much success at British Cycling, but it doesn't really work if the basics aren't in place. It feels now that they are - so it's much easier to zero in on small improvements that will finesse the overall performance.

Haven't been able to say that for a while!

Re: Season Stats : Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:43 am  

bren2k wrote:

It would be interesting to see a stat on back to back tries; Cas have excelled at doing that this year - it's obviously a deliberate strategy - and it's a real hammer blow to the opposition when they make two quick scores and pull away on the board. I'd like to see us with some set plays from our own half that could produce something similar - we certainly have the pace out wide to pull it off.

And I'd agree that last tackle plays need to be better - too many kicks to nowt - although there aren't many who can do what Gale and Sneyd do with the boot.

You mean like Tupou's 80 metre try against Saints ??

Re: Season Stats : Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:50 am  

FIL wrote:

You mean like Tupou's 80 metre try against Saints ??

A bit like that yes - although I don't think even he would have the balls to call that a set play! What we need is the ability to do that, then do it again straight afterwards - like what Cas do.