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Re: Anti - Trin Bias : Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:57 am  

I am biased towards out players and I wouldn't pick any on current form for England.

Ashurst is competing with Bateman, Whirehead and Sam Burgess for the second row, given SOL is 13. For me he is good but doesn't get in yet.

Conner, Percival and even Lomax have shot at centre. Each far more creative than Lyne.

TJ is uncountable an England prospect at his best but Makinson has stolen his chance this time with good form.

I'm really pleased with how each of our guys are going but I don't think they are being treated unfairly.

Re: Anti - Trin Bias : Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:10 pm  

You like your stats Poptart, what do you make of this?

Makinson has been playing on the wing for Saints and has scored 6 tries with 7 assists, Tommy has scored 11 tries with 0 try assists. Who's the inform winger?

Other England selections - Ryan Hall 8 tries with 1 assist and Jermaine McGillvary 4 tries with 0 assists.

Personally I would be taking the guys who's bagging meat pies week in week out.

Re: Anti - Trin Bias : Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:48 pm  

Trinity18 wrote:

You like your stats Poptart, what do you make of this?

Makinson has been playing on the wing for Saints and has scored 6 tries with 7 assists, Tommy has scored 11 tries with 0 try assists. Who's the inform winger?

Other England selections - Ryan Hall 8 tries with 1 assist and Jermaine McGillvary 4 tries with 0 assists.

Personally I would be taking the guys who's bagging meat pies week in week out.

So stats wise, Makinson has been involved with 13 tries, TJ has been involved with 11, who has the best stats there?

Re: Anti - Trin Bias : Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:54 pm  

JINJER wrote:

So stats wise, Makinson has been involved with 13 tries, TJ has been involved with 11, who has the best stats there?

Definition of a rugby league winger...

"They are generally among the fastest players in a team, with the speed to exploit space that is created for them and finish an attacking move."

Who's finished the most tries?

If Makinson is going to be played at Centre then whey do we take Hall and McGillvary who even together have only scored 1 more try than Johnstone?

Re: Anti - Trin Bias : Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:10 pm  

Macgillivray I think purely on his last Seasons form. He’s been quiet all year I think and not broke many pots. Hall is one of those big game players in my opinion that can raise his game for an England performance. Eventually though the younger next generation wingers Johnstone, charnley amongst them will get the chance soon enough. I think TJ and charnley would have been the better option to see how they perform on a big stage and see if they’re capable of raising their game for the international scene. But I’ve a feeling bennet is all about results to justify his position than building a future England team.



Players like charnley and Johnstone their time will come eventually. They just need to keep putting their hands up with good performances.

Re: Anti - Trin Bias : Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:30 pm  

Trinity18 wrote:

Definition of a rugby league winger...

"They are generally among the fastest players in a team, with the speed to exploit space that is created for them and finish an attacking move."

Who's finished the most tries?

If Makinson is going to be played at Centre then whey do we take Hall and McGillvary who even together have only scored 1 more try than Johnstone?

Speed or not Makinson has been involved with 13 tries and TJ 11. Carney at Cas was sensational, not the fastest by any stretch of the imagination, different wingers have different attributes.

Re: Anti - Trin Bias : Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:47 pm  

TJ is till trying to find his form, I honestly don't think he's done enough this season, so far, to deserve a call up. I am in no doubt that he will eventually.

Re: Anti - Trin Bias : Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:28 pm  

NEwildcat wrote:

TJ is till trying to find his form, I honestly don't think he's done enough this season, so far, to deserve a call up. I am in no doubt that he will eventually.

At the end of the day he is only about 6 months from returning from a big injury. He is progressing well and there’s definitely more to come from Johnstone. I’m expecting as the season goes on we will see him hit some good form. That’s not to say he’s been out of form as he’s been good and done his job well season to date. Class is permenant and he has it as we’ve all seen it.

Re: Anti - Trin Bias : Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:40 pm  

Trojan Horse wrote:

At the end of the day he is only about 6 months from returning from a big injury. He is progressing well and there’s definitely more to come from Johnstone. I’m expecting as the season goes on we will see him hit some good form. That’s not to say he’s been out of form as he’s been good and done his job well season to date. Class is permenant and he has it as we’ve all seen it.

He's come back into the team after a shocking injury for a sportsman and he's done surprisingly well. I think we'll see the best of TJ next season myself.

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Re: Anti - Trin Bias : Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:42 pm  

The best thing we can do to help TJ is get him to some big games on tv in the 8s that will allow him to show his skills.
Everyone knew that Richardson was a good player but people take notice when he drops a goal to win a big game because it shows his ability to handle pressure and expectation that playing for England requires.
I think that is one of the things that has kept Percival out as he has been brilliant but made some poor decisions in big games.