Re: Posts : Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:16 pm  

Sacred Cow wrote:

They will be apoplectic when they find out in the new year that their new stadium isn't happening and Wakey Council are giving us a significant amount of brass up front to buy Belle Vue and get started on the refurb! Now that will be good viewing!

Well that statement has certainly brought a few of us to life, Redscat will be pleased.



I have heard bits of rumours floating around that also suggest this but lets not get too excited.

First of all Box will not see Cas loose out he will make sure of one thing, they will come out better than us.


However, Box is still running our shambolic council and the only money they will part with is from that mysterious account that gave both clubs £2M in the past. It must be true because Box told us all on the radio. In fact it reminds me of that scissors sister track "You can't see ti its on the radio" When Box is on you can certainly hear one speaking.

Re: Posts : Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:43 pm  

Prince Buster wrote:

Well that statement has certainly brought a few of us to life, Redscat will be pleased.



I have heard bits of rumours floating around that also suggest this but lets not get too excited.

First of all Box will not see Cas loose out he will make sure of one thing, they will come out better than us.


However, Box is still running our shambolic council and the only money they will part with is from that mysterious account that gave both clubs £2M in the past. It must be true because Box told us all on the radio. In fact it reminds me of that scissors sister track "You can't see ti its on the radio" When Box is on you can certainly hear one speaking.

First of all why do so many threads turn to Cas v Wakey fests? Think this probably deserves its own thread as there is so much to answer but I'll just say what i know about this mate as its nearing midnight and I have loads of ugly old women to kiss. AFAIK it was 3 clubs (Fev the other) but money was never promised. They were offered/gifted/loaned land to the value of £2million to borrow money against. The land for Cas was at the back of Cas baths (sports fields, so green belt) I don't know where yours or Fev's was but Cas declined the offer. No details were ever explained but what I did question was what would happen in default, ie, Cas borrow £2million against the land but don't pay it back. Who do the money lenders come after, Cas or WMDC. Or do they take the green belt land that was offered as security. I'll try and respond to some of the other stuff tomorrow as best I can.

Re: Posts : Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:49 pm  

snowie wrote:

yep truly poor nothing to whinge about,


h[color=#FF0000]ere's one for you, this teatime I decide to bob on the cas forum[/color] just to see how their result was v Fev only to find unrest on a thread titled Not where we want to be,
one or two fans having a gripe at their BOD and some insults being branded about on about wages, seems they aren't happy that they haven't signed anyone and are taking cheap shots at the BOD one of them Mark Grattan who I know, so they aren't even happy when the make a profit and are up in the top 4, will keep an eye on this one could be good popcorn material

Shouldn't that be every tea time. Obsessed.
I think you have probably guessed the main protaganists are disgruntled share holders who have had their noses put out of joint but some of their complaints do seem justified.
Any way all the very best to you and your family and every one else on here be the friend or foe.

Re: Posts : Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:58 pm  

Although you're a Cas fan NGB4W, I've never had any grudge against you. You tend to usually put your points fairly and honestly. So happy new year to you and all others on this site!!!

Re: Posts : Tue Jan 01, 2019 7:29 pm  

newgroundb4wakey wrote: First of all why do so many threads turn to Cas v Wakey fests? Think this probably deserves its own thread as there is so much to answer but I'll just say what i know about this mate as its nearing midnight and I have loads of ugly old women to kiss. AFAIK it was 3 clubs (Fev the other) but money was never promised. They were offered/gifted/loaned land to the value of £2million to borrow money against. The land for Cas was at the back of Cas baths (sports fields, so green belt) I don't know where yours or Fev's was but Cas declined the offer. No details were ever explained but what I did question was what would happen in default, ie, Cas borrow £2million against the land but don't pay it back. Who do the money lenders come after, Cas or WMDC. Or do they take the green belt land that was offered as security. I'll try and respond to some of the other stuff tomorrow as best I can. Your right it was in a form of land that the clubs could get loans up to a value of £2m. I think it's been brought up again because Box was on radio just over a week ago and obviously got a few questions chucked his way and he actually said that both us and Cas were given £2m, which makes it sound very different to the casual listener and makes it seem like they've gone above and beyond in all this. He also pointed fingers in other directions as to why Newmarket hasn't been built to original spec, namely the S of S at the time, which is some special kind of buck shifting. Also, don't remember anything about Fev getting any land to borrow against, could be wrong mind, because both our money was on the precursor that it went towards new grounds. Didn't your stadium plans at the time fall through at Glasshoughton not long after anyway? There's a thread with a bit of discussion about what Box said on the radio here. http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=620512 As for your question, someone from the Trust may be able to answer, that's if they post anymore on here.

newgroundb4wakey wrote: First of all why do so many threads turn to Cas v Wakey fests? Think this probably deserves its own thread as there is so much to answer but I'll just say what i know about this mate as its nearing midnight and I have loads of ugly old women to kiss. AFAIK it was 3 clubs (Fev the other) but money was never promised. They were offered/gifted/loaned land to the value of £2million to borrow money against. The land for Cas was at the back of Cas baths (sports fields, so green belt) I don't know where yours or Fev's was but Cas declined the offer. No details were ever explained but what I did question was what would happen in default, ie, Cas borrow £2million against the land but don't pay it back. Who do the money lenders come after, Cas or WMDC. Or do they take the green belt land that was offered as security. I'll try and respond to some of the other stuff tomorrow as best I can. Your right it was in a form of land that the clubs could get loans up to a value of £2m. I think it's been brought up again because Box was on radio just over a week ago and obviously got a few questions chucked his way and he actually said that both us and Cas were given £2m, which makes it sound very different to the casual listener and makes it seem like they've gone above and beyond in all this. He also pointed fingers in other directions as to why Newmarket hasn't been built to original spec, namely the S of S at the time, which is some special kind of buck shifting. Also, don't remember anything about Fev getting any land to borrow against, could be wrong mind, because both our money was on the precursor that it went towards new grounds. Didn't your stadium plans at the time fall through at Glasshoughton not long after anyway? There's a thread with a bit of discussion about what Box said on the radio here. http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=620512 As for your question, someone from the Trust may be able to answer, that's if they post anymore on here.

Re: Posts : Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:59 pm  

Box is waiting for Wakefield to get kicked out of SL for having a substandard ground, before he gives the rubber stamp go ahead for the Cas ground.

Re: Posts : Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:34 pm  

I'm a bit surprised nobody has picked up on the fact that Box and his esteemed colleagues recently lent £2m to Northamptonshire County Council, which he was confident "would be paid back" (reported in the Wakefield Express). A council which is due to be abolished in the next few months, because of financial mismanagement and be restructured as 2 or 3 smaller districts. If I was a Wakefield taxpayer I would be pretty annoyed at this. He seems happy to throw money at a heavily debt ridden Council but not do anything for the people of the Wakefield District.

Re: Posts : Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:31 am  

trinfan71 wrote:

I'm a bit surprised nobody has picked up on the fact that Box and his esteemed colleagues recently lent £2m to Northamptonshire County Council, which he was confident "would be paid back" (reported in the Wakefield Express). A council which is due to be abolished in the next few months, because of financial mismanagement and be restructured as 2 or 3 smaller districts. If I was a Wakefield taxpayer I would be pretty annoyed at this. He seems happy to throw money at a heavily debt ridden Council but not do anything for the people of the Wakefield District.

Completely forgot about this. First I heard of it was on the way to work on Ridings FM about a month or so ago - to say I was stunned would be an understatement.

Re: Posts : Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:03 am  

trinfan71 wrote:

I'm a bit surprised nobody has picked up on the fact that Box and his esteemed colleagues recently lent £2m to Northamptonshire County Council, which he was confident "would be paid back" (reported in the Wakefield Express). A council which is due to be abolished in the next few months, because of financial mismanagement and be restructured as 2 or 3 smaller districts. If I was a Wakefield taxpayer I would be pretty annoyed at this. He seems happy to throw money at a heavily debt ridden Council but not do anything for the people of the Wakefield District.

It was a council to council loan nothing out of the ordinary here just like when Iceland got into trouble lots of Authorities had loans in jeapordy.
Nothing in the Northampton matter.

Re: Posts : Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:18 pm  

The fact that MC hasn’t threatened to go to the high court suggests that (meaningful) talks must be ongoing. The reassuring fact from our point of view is that MC won’t allow these talks to be drawn out indefinitely. The clock must surely have very nearly run out.