Re: Furner sacked : Tue May 07, 2019 5:14 pm  

Feel a bit sorry for Furner...as has been said comes across as a decent guy and was never given a chance!

Think the problem at Leeds is Sinfield personally...because he was such a big part of a team that dominated for so long and was so successful...he is wanting that to come back but isn't prepared to wait the amount of time it will take...there is no quick fix at Leeds and it won't get any better until they show a bit of patience IMO...

They've signed two cracking players in Merrin and Hurrel, but the backbone of the team is not there and they're littered with bang average players....so what they are doing at present is about right for the squad they have...they will look good in the odd game but on the whole are not that good...

Luckily for Leeds we have London this year who look like they will be the ones to finish bottom or there would be a real chance of it being Leeds!

Re: Furner sacked : Tue May 07, 2019 5:27 pm  

upthecats wrote:

Feel a bit sorry for Furner...as has been said comes across as a decent guy and was never given a chance!

Think the problem at Leeds is Sinfield personally...because he was such a big part of a team that dominated for so long and was so successful...he is wanting that to come back but isn't prepared to wait the amount of time it will take...there is no quick fix at Leeds and it won't get any better until they show a bit of patience IMO...

They've signed two cracking players in Merrin and Hurrel, but the backbone of the team is not there and they're littered with bang average players....so what they are doing at present is about right for the squad they have...they will look good in the odd game but on the whole are not that good...

Luckily for Leeds we have London this year who look like they will be the ones to finish bottom or there would be a real chance of it being Leeds!

sinfield should fall on his own sword now, being a good player doesn't make him as good in the managerial department proved it last season and for some reason job for the boys ain't working,

as for London I think you can also add KR to that list as their points difference is just as bad, how the hell we lost to both of these clubs is beyond me

Re: Furner sacked : Tue May 07, 2019 5:57 pm  

I'm more concerned about who they might come after when Agar's caretaker period comes to and end.....

Re: Furner sacked : Tue May 07, 2019 5:58 pm  

I'm more concerned about who they might come after when Agar's caretaker period comes to and end.....

Re: Furner sacked : Tue May 07, 2019 6:10 pm  

charlie63wildcat wrote:

I'm more concerned about who they might come after when Agar's caretaker period comes to and end.....

certainly don't want chessie turning them over in our next game against leeds

Re: Furner sacked : Tue May 07, 2019 6:17 pm  

upthecats wrote:

Think the problem at Leeds is Sinfield personally...because he was such a big part of a team that dominated for so long and was so successful...he is wanting that to come back but isn't prepared to wait the amount of time it will take...

Other way round really, Sinfield knows it’ll be a long term job, Furner only here on a 3 year deal had unrealistic expectations about how many players he could offload so quickly to try and be challenging within his time here.

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Re: Furner sacked : Tue May 07, 2019 6:39 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

Other way round really, Sinfield knows it’ll be a long term job, Furner only here on a 3 year deal had unrealistic expectations about how many players he could offload so quickly to try and be challenging within his time here.

I don't get that.
If he identified that he had average players and wanted to move them on, I'd say we all agree with him. You included.
By saying that he is identifying that without change the team will be bang average, which they are.
The unrealistic expectation is from the people who sacked him for not getting more wins than they are capable of surely?

Re: Furner sacked : Tue May 07, 2019 6:47 pm  

PopTart wrote:

I don't get that.
If he identified that he had average players and wanted to move them on, I'd say we all agree with him. You included.
By saying that he is identifying that without change the team will be bang average, which they are.
The unrealistic expectation is from the people who sacked him for not getting more wins than they are capable of surely?

Remember Pop, rebuilding, rebuilding, rebuilding

Re: Furner sacked : Tue May 07, 2019 7:20 pm  

PopTart wrote:

I don't get that.
If he identified that he had average players and wanted to move them on, I'd say we all agree with him. You included.
By saying that he is identifying that without change the team will be bang average, which they are.
The unrealistic expectation is from the people who sacked him for not getting more wins than they are capable of surely?

Yes but in a salary cap sport where just about all teams had their squads sorted for 2019 how many players do you think you can try to offload at short notice in the offseason/early start of this season. Players have contracts, other clubs don’t really have cap space at that time. Would’ve been much wiser to identify which players could go at the END of 2019 and let them have plenty of time to look for and sort deals for next year where cap space and positions are opening up at other clubs.

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Re: Furner sacked : Tue May 07, 2019 7:38 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

Yes but in a salary cap sport where just about all teams had their squads sorted for 2019 how many players do you think you can try to offload at short notice in the offseason/early start of this season. Players have contracts, other clubs don’t really have cap space at that time. Would’ve been much wiser to identify which players could go at the END of 2019 and let them have plenty of time to look for and sort deals for next year where cap space and positions are opening up at other clubs.

I still don't get the difference.
He identified them but they didn't leave. So they played at the level they could and the team ended where they should be.
Why not wait until he could do what he wanted and judge him on those results.

If he identified them at the end of the year they still end up in the same position they are now surely?