Re: New application at Newmarket Lane. : Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:53 pm  

What effect does the loan from the council, to buy BV, have on the Newmarket issues.
The Trust seem to have been exceptionally quiet since the loan was given or, did I miss something ?

Re: New application at Newmarket Lane. : Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:33 pm  

Willzay wrote:

Time for some court action surely?

Depends on the outcome. Whilst hearing the application in full again doesn't sound great it would make the council look at best extremely incompetent and at worst rather dodgy if all of sudden they changed the decision the original commitee made. The previous objections still count and will be taken into account and there has been no further information from Yorkcourt to remedy those objections so at this point you would have to hope the outcome would be the same. It does though delay things further either way.

Re: New application at Newmarket Lane. : Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:49 pm  

How do you fund Court action ? £ 50,000 would be needed just to get started then perhaps £ 250,000. The loan has nothing to do with Newmarket, Council have made a loan to the club on commercial terms.

Re: New application at Newmarket Lane. : Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:28 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

What effect does the loan from the council, to buy BV, have on the Newmarket issues.
The Trust seem to have been exceptionally quiet since the loan was given or, did I miss something ?

It does seem a tad quiet doesn't it, maybe things are progressing behind the scenes, they could be at a critical point with all the wheeler dealings going on.

Maybe it's best to enjoy the R.L. season on the field & let 'em get on with it.

Re: New application at Newmarket Lane. : Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:21 pm  

Sacred Cow wrote:

. The previous objections still count and will be taken into account and there has been no further information from Yorkcourt to remedy those objections so at this point you would have to hope the outcome would be the same.

SC

Well if you look at the latest planning officer recommendations it strongly suggests he wants the decision overturned and makes a very strong case for it in his summary.

Also for those that attended the original meeting, I am sure you will have been impressed by councillor Swift who was the lead voice of the opposition to this and the man who made it happen. This was done against very strong opposition from the chair of planning and the legal officer.

THE INTERESTING BIT ! councillor Swift is no longer of the planning committee, make of that what you will.


Any good book maker would give extremely long odds on the original refusal standing

Re: New application at Newmarket Lane. : Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:29 pm  

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

It does seem a tad quiet doesn't it, maybe things are progressing behind the scenes, they could be at a critical point with all the wheeler dealings going on.

Maybe it's best to enjoy the R.L. season on the field & let 'em get on with it.

DA yes enjoy the rugby while it lasts.


The club have no cards to play in this and are at the total mercy of a developer who has failed to deliver what he promised time after time and so far not one penny has come from his pocket.


Then factor in a council who seem perfectly happy to allow this , I think you may hear some good sound bites and press statements but it could be an extremely long time before anything substantial happens. Lets not forget the stadium is only a loan every penny has to be repaid if Yorkcourt fail to pay up.

Re: New application at Newmarket Lane. : Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:08 pm  

Prince Buster wrote:

DA yes enjoy the rugby while it lasts.


The club have no cards to play in this and are at the total mercy of a developer who has failed to deliver what he promised time after time and so far not one penny has come from his pocket.


Then factor in a council who seem perfectly happy to allow this , I think you may hear some good sound bites and press statements but it could be an extremely long time before anything substantial happens. Lets not forget the stadium is only a loan every penny has to be repaid if Yorkcourt fail to pay up.

Having read the Wakefield Express article, I now feel there is a hint of skullduggery within Council chambers. I am aware there is now less than a week before the planning meeting, but I do hope we have some advice from the stadium trust by early next week. I know TRB is no longer a trust member, but it is known that he will oppose all planning applications for Newmarket Lane, until the developers provide funding for the community stadium project. I, and many others will support him, and continue the objections, but we need advice from the stadium trust.

Re: New application at Newmarket Lane. : Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:19 pm  

Dunkirk Spirit wrote:

Having read the Wakefield Express article, I now feel there is a hint of skullduggery within Council chambers. I am aware there is now less than a week before the planning meeting, but I do hope we have some advice from the stadium trust by early next week. I know TRB is no longer a trust member, but it is known that he will oppose all planning applications for Newmarket Lane, until the developers provide funding for the community stadium project. I, and many others will support him, and continue the objections, but we need advice from the stadium trust.

I will attend the meeting again if trust want us to.

Re: New application at Newmarket Lane. : Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:48 pm  

bellycouldtackle wrote:

How do you fund Court action ? £ 50,000 would be needed just to get started then perhaps £ 250,000. The loan has nothing to do with Newmarket, Council have made a loan to the club on commercial terms.

Use the council loan to take them to court, that would be brilliant

Re: New application at Newmarket Lane. : Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:01 pm  

Prince Buster wrote:

SC

Well if you look at the latest planning officer recommendations it strongly suggests he wants the decision overturned and makes a very strong case for it in his summary.

Also for those that attended the original meeting, I am sure you will have been impressed by councillor Swift who was the lead voice of the opposition to this and the man who made it happen. This was done against very strong opposition from the chair of planning and the legal officer.

THE INTERESTING BIT ! councillor Swift is no longer of the planning committee, make of that what you will.


Any good book maker would give extremely long odds on the original refusal standing

Having had chance now to read the summary in full i must admit he makes a compelling case for the decision to be overturned. But previous council commitee decisions do carry a lot of weight and who is to say that there isn't another Mr Swift in the new lot who will plead the case well. It may be though that you are correct and they go with the 'legal advice' but time will only tell there. But i really don't think it is the foregone conclusion you think it is thanks to the previous decision, although i'm nowhere near as confident as i was yesterday before i knew it wasn't just the box ticking exercise. One thing for sure though is that Yorkcourt will be better prepared this time and will give it a much bigger push, last time i felt they thought in was a shoe-in and were complacent.

To be honest it is all pretty immaterial anyway, the only argument is how rich Yorkcourt & Co get because whatever the result there is no way in this world they are funding a community stadium.