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Re: Rugby League Gets Big Government Handout : Fri May 01, 2020 12:03 pm  
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I don't understand how this is going to work. It is a loan so it will need to be repaid. The only money in the game comes from TV money and diectors loans to clubs, if directors call in their loans then most SL clubs would go bust. Without the TV money then its back t part time. The RFL lost money on last accounts and in a good year make just a few quid. SL Europe breaks even, so where will the money come from to repay the loan, only way I can see is if a percentage is taken from TV deal to repay the loan and the clubs have to cut budgets and survive on less


I'm presuming it's a case of looking at the alternative scenario. The repayments might be over many years, and there is a World Cup pending, which might go some way to repaying it.

Also, Sky TV might be offering something (I'm only speculating). At the moment, a lot of customers have paused their Sports subscription, and Sky have said it will resume as normal when sport does. Now, at the moment, we might be paying full subscriptions by May 28th, as the NRL is resuming. If we followed in June, we have live sport and Sky income goes up.

As for the clubs, I seem to remember that MC said we make about 60K every home game (or is it losing 60K for not staging them?). So, as a round figure, we'll be down around 700K on the season. But, staff are furloughed for a couple of months, so the loss will be less. And if played in empty stadiums, or on a triple-header basis without crowds, there are fewer suppliers to pay, so the loss comes down lower. And there maybe some way of streaming the games for a small fee, which will help.

So, in a nutshell, I'm speculating whether a club like Wakey might only need 500K of that 16 million just to end the season in the way that they would normally, in financial terms.

What we don't know, of course, is whether the liability for the loan is borne by the RFL, or whether the RFL then use it to extend credit terms to the clubs, so in fact the RFL sit on 16 million as a resource for any club that needs it, but of course it has to be repaid to the RFL. Will the RFL loan money to clubs, and repay the government through clubs repaying the loans, or will the RFL give money in terms of grants and the RFL finds its own way to repay it?

This is a long-winded way of saying that none of us really know much but those who know what they're talking about think it is crucial and a good thing, so hurrah!
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Re: Rugby League Gets Big Government Handout : Fri May 01, 2020 12:38 pm  
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Well not obvious to Poptart eh?! The game isn't going to start again any quicker because the government has given 'us' money is it? From his post I have taken that is what he means, but he has the right to reply and correct me if i'm wrong and he means something else of course......


I mean that the target should be to get back out there as quickly as possible but player welfare is first.
Test everyone, which is perfectly possible now. And there would have to be some serious governance around what players and staff can do and where they can go, but it shouldn't be insurmountable.
The contact part of our sport shouldn't mean we can't proceed until the virus is gone. Just that we should proceed when it is safe to do so. The money will help do that, even if it is just to put the players up in a quarantined environment.
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Re: Rugby League Gets Big Government Handout : Fri May 01, 2020 1:40 pm  
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I don't understand how this is going to work. It is a loan so it will need to be repaid. The only money in the game comes from TV money and diectors loans to clubs, if directors call in their loans then most SL clubs would go bust. Without the TV money then its back t part time. The RFL lost money on last accounts and in a good year make just a few quid. SL Europe breaks even, so where will the money come from to repay the loan, only way I can see is if a percentage is taken from TV deal to repay the loan and the clubs have to cut budgets and survive on less

I might be wrong but, do the RFL own a large chunk of prime land in Bradford? Perhaps this could be sold off to help with the current financial situation our sport faces at this time. Remember, every little helps.
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Re: Rugby League Gets Big Government Handout : Fri May 01, 2020 3:41 pm  
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I might be wrong but, do the RFL own a large chunk of prime land in Bradford? Perhaps this could be sold off to help with the current financial situation our sport faces at this time. Remember, every little helps.
whoops get the tin hat on :lol:
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Re: Rugby League Gets Big Government Handout : Fri May 01, 2020 5:34 pm  
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I might be wrong but, do the RFL own a large chunk of prime land in Bradford? Perhaps this could be sold off to help with the current financial situation our sport faces at this time. Remember, every little helps.

It would be an ideal time DS, sell it to the council and open it to fill with all the garbage that the scum are fly tipping up and down :thumb:
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Re: Rugby League Gets Big Government Handout : Sat May 02, 2020 11:50 am  
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I might be wrong but, do the RFL own a large chunk of prime land in Bradford?

They don't.



















Prime land doesn't exist in Bradford.
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Re: Rugby League Gets Big Government Handout : Sun May 03, 2020 9:29 am  
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I might be wrong but, do the RFL own a large chunk of prime land in Bradford? Perhaps this could be sold off to help with the current financial situation our sport faces at this time. Remember, every little helps.


The R.F.L. don't own Odsal.
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Re: Rugby League Gets Big Government Handout : Mon May 04, 2020 3:21 pm  
MC quoted in today's League Express saying that we won't be applying for any of the £16 million as it is a loan that will eventually need to be repaid and he doesn't want to take us down that route, whereas a certain big-spending club just 10 miles up the M1 will be !!
Adam Pearson says that Hull FC are in a similar situation with regards to a huge wage bill and virtually no tangible assets !!
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Re: Rugby League Gets Big Government Handout : Mon May 04, 2020 5:14 pm  
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MC quoted in today's League Express saying that we won't be applying for any of the £16 million as it is a loan that will eventually need to be repaid and he doesn't want to take us down that route, whereas a certain big-spending club just 10 miles up the M1 will be !!
Adam Pearson says that Hull FC are in a similar situation with regards to a huge wage bill and virtually no tangible assets !!


Just our luck that MC will turn down the loan; then yer Leeds, Hull, Wigans etc will accept it, only for the Government to write the loans off in a couple of years. Hence the rich clubs will become wealthier and we'll still be struggling. It's the way of the world, I'm afraid. :DEPRESSED:
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Re: Rugby League Gets Big Government Handout : Mon May 04, 2020 7:36 pm  
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Just our luck that MC will turn down the loan; then yer Leeds, Hull, Wigans etc will accept it, only for the Government to write the loans off in a couple of years. Hence the rich clubs will become wealthier and we'll still be struggling. It's the way of the world, I'm afraid. :DEPRESSED:


I know it's a risk but I don't think the government can afford to do that.
They are giving do much financial help it will be a real struggle financially on the other side.
Loan will be paid back through HMRC I'm sure. .
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