Re: 21 for Salford game : Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:13 pm  

steve1g wrote:

BJB could play fb as he did quite a bit in the past, especially in his London days, with either Senior or Kershaw on the wing, allowing Rocky to stay at 7 as he seems to have provided the majority of our last tackle kicking game over the last few weeks, even with Miller back.

Personally tho I'd like to see Bailey given another full 80, with at least 50% of the responsibility for kicking as the only way to test him is in game conditions.

I rate BJB as a winger but not as a FB.

Re: 21 for Salford game : Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:21 pm  

vastman wrote:

I rate BJB as a winger but not as a FB.

I would like to see TJ at fullback it’s a nothing game just to see if he can get more ball and his broken field running if it doesn’t work who cares

Re: 21 for Salford game : Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:32 pm  

MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:

I would like to see TJ at fullback it’s a nothing game just to see if he can get more ball and his broken field running if it doesn’t work who cares

Always said this with TJ, it is something that you see a lot in the NRL, those real special players that play in the centre or the wing usually end up becoming great fullbacks, granted in a lot of cases some of those played a lot of junior rugby at FB but there is the likes of Valentine Holmes and Billy Slater that played majority of junior grade on the wing and started first grade on the wing before moving to FB.

Re: 21 for Salford game : Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:58 pm  

MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:

I would like to see TJ at fullback it’s a nothing game just to see if he can get more ball and his broken field running if it doesn’t work who cares

Be interesting although to me he looks like he could also play centre, he’s got a good pass on him

Re: 21 for Salford game : Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:16 pm  

vastman wrote:

Be interesting although to me he looks like he could also play centre, he’s got a good pass on him

Who's gonna keep up with him to receive the pass?

Prime example was Croft being unable to back BJB up last weekend.

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Re: 21 for Salford game : Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:55 am  

vastman wrote:

Be interesting although to me he looks like he could also play centre, he’s got a good pass on him

He's more a centre than a fullback.
Putting the fast lad at the back doesn't work any more. You got to have other skills and a lot more fitness than other positions.

For me he's an out and out winger and we should just focus on getting him good ball.

Re: 21 for Salford game : Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:20 am  

PopTart wrote:

He's more a centre than a fullback.
Putting the fast lad at the back doesn't work any more. You got to have other skills and a lot more fitness than other positions.

For me he's an out and out winger and we should just focus on getting him good ball.

For me I see Tom as a lot more than "The fast lad"

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Re: 21 for Salford game : Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:29 am  

homme vaste wrote:

For me I see Tom as a lot more than "The fast lad"

So do I. I'm just saying, the more that I do see, is better served on the wing.

No one ever tried to move Martin Ofiiah.
FB has very different angles of running, more pressure under high ball stood still, link play with backline and managing the defense.
TJ has never had to do any of that before.

Also one of his best skills is finishing in the corner with no space. He wouldn't use that at all at fullback.

I'm sure he'd make a good go of it but why change one of your best assets?

Re: 21 for Salford game : Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:47 am  

PopTart wrote:

He's more a centre than a fullback.
Putting the fast lad at the back doesn't work any more. You got to have other skills and a lot more fitness than other positions.

For me he's an out and out winger and we should just focus on getting him good ball.

I agree with what you are saying, but I think that quite a few Wigan fans might disagree in the case of Bevan French.

Re: 21 for Salford game : Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:49 am  

PopTart wrote:

So do I. I'm just saying, the more that I do see, is better served on the wing.

No one ever tried to move Martin Ofiiah.
FB has very different angles of running, more pressure under high ball stood still, link play with backline and managing the defense.
TJ has never had to do any of that before.

Also one of his best skills is finishing in the corner with no space. He wouldn't use that at all at fullback.

I'm sure he'd make a good go of it but why change one of your best assets?

I realise all of that PT, there is a lot to the FB game, my point was when I said that I have always said that is more there was potential to try him out at FB probably slightly earlier, managing defences, linking into the attack is something that can be trained into a player, natural pace, evasion, strength is something that you cannot .Probably a little late in the day for it now but was something that I thought we should have looked at.

The finishing in the corner with no space is something that more or less every winger in the league now has in there back pocket, it has now become the norm although granted Tom is one of the best at it.