Re: Chris Chester Interview : Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:32 pm  

Some of what was said openly on social media platforms crossed the line. Quite embarrassing from grown men.

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Re: Chris Chester Interview : Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:23 pm  

Redscat wrote:

Spent the majority of his working life going head to head with, and being thrown to the ground by, eighteen stone forwards was no problem, but what was mostly constructive criticism of his coaching methods on this forum "affected" him. I don't know what was said on other social websites, but I don't recall anything particularly nasty on here.

Self esteem damage and mental health damage is far worse than bruises and breaks.
Think that's pretty clear now no matter what generation you are from.

Even on here it went too far but on far less moderated (by us all not just me) forums it got pretty nasty with comments affecting his family too.

Re: Chris Chester Interview : Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:34 am  

PopTart wrote:

Self esteem damage and mental health damage is far worse than bruises and breaks.
Think that's pretty clear now no matter what generation you are from.

Even on here it went too far but on far less moderated (by us all not just me) forums it got pretty nasty with comments affecting his family too.

Affecting your family is most likely where the line is drawn. If you're a public figure (even an SL coach) you probably expect criticism which may not be fair, but you can probably take it. If it starts to affect innocent family members then it's a different ball game, even if it's just your kids seeing comments on your social media.
Perhaps this is why MC no longer has public accounts on SM.

Re: Chris Chester Interview : Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:21 am  

Redscat wrote:

Must admit, I was one of those criticising CC, but fully believed that the games won/games played ratio was unacceptable for any head coach. Thankfully I never resorted to any more than sarcasm and irony mainly. I hope that he's put all that behind him now and Willie P and Lasty will prove the added coaching flair that was sadly lacking in last season's coaching team.

You were within your rights, we were pretty bad even taking all the factors into account. It got nasty when the conspiracy theories kicked in from people ‘allegedly, in the know.

For me CC has a lot to prove this season. I only snapped once last year but I’m not going to suddenly pretend all is rosy. Something went wrong last year within the camp that went beyond injuries and Covid. The sudden and massive improvement in the last six games made that more not less obvious imho. One that returning players alone doesn’t explain.

Five years is a long stint for any coach, it’s a big year for both Chester and the club.

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Re: Chris Chester Interview : Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:30 am  

Personally I think covid and injuries does explain the issues we had.
All coaches make a big deal when they have day less to prepare for a game in normal circumstances so having your team constantly change in the middle of game prep massively hurts the team.
Could a better coaching team have handled it better - possibly
Does it mean Chester is a bad coach - no
Will having a fully fit team not disrupted make a difference to our performance this year - yes
Does that mean we'll suddenly be winning trophies - probably not

Re: Chris Chester Interview : Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:37 pm  

Even on here it went too far but on far less moderated (by us all not just me) forums it got pretty nasty with comments affecting his family too.[/quote]

Agreed, PT. Just not on!!!

Re: Chris Chester Interview : Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:56 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Personally I think covid and injuries does explain the issues we had.
All coaches make a big deal when they have day less to prepare for a game in normal circumstances so having your team constantly change in the middle of game prep massively hurts the team.
Could a better coaching team have handled it better - possibly
Does it mean Chester is a bad coach - no
Will having a fully fit team not disrupted make a difference to our performance this year - yes
Does that mean we'll suddenly be winning trophies - probably not

First of all no one deserves abuse esp where family becomes involved for what at end of day is him doing his job.
Injuries and covid is partially to blame for some of last years performances but not entirely and lets not forgot other teams had similar issues as ourselves all be it maybe not as bad.
I personally think cc is very fortunate mc is very loyal as he could of been so easily let go at the end of 2019 and yes injuries can be blamed but again but not entirely i mean 2 years ago we where played off the park by london with a full strength team.
Whatever people think of chris we currently have a record of roughley 8 wins in 40 v sl sides with what many describe as one of our strongest evwr sl squads.
Yes people point to the couple of years before where we did well but both the seasons he had able assistants in jk and mm.so hopefully al and wp can come in help this season but think this is were chris is in a no win situation cos if we do well will it be down to the 2 new assistants.i personally wish him very well i want him to succeed i like the guy and tended to feel sorry for him laat season cos at times he did sound a broken man hopefully fixtures can be kind to him and we get some winnable games in our first 6 id hate to think what happens of we go first 6 without a win cos the abuses will be out again.

Re: Chris Chester Interview : Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:32 am  

PopTart wrote:

Personally I think covid and injuries does explain the issues we had.
All coaches make a big deal when they have day less to prepare for a game in normal circumstances so having your team constantly change in the middle of game prep massively hurts the team.
Could a better coaching team have handled it better - possibly
Does it mean Chester is a bad coach - no
Will having a fully fit team not disrupted make a difference to our performance this year - yes
Does that mean we'll suddenly be winning trophies - probably not

I still think there was something else. The club seemed to focus on completing fixtures to guarantee the sky money - winning those games became secondary. It felt like they were a series of friendlies and there was a lack of intensity - simply going through the motions. Without the sky money, the club could have folded?

Re: Chris Chester Interview : Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:44 am  

coco the fullback wrote:

I still think there was something else. The club seemed to focus on completing fixtures to guarantee the sky money - winning those games became secondary. It felt like they were a series of friendlies and there was a lack of intensity - simply going through the motions. Without the sky money, the club could have folded?

It's possible, it was an almost meaningless season in many respects other than finances that's for certain and hats off if it kept the club afloat.

However, I think the rot set in more during 2019 than in 2020. That was where the response of some players seemed to be most lacking to me. True the injury situation was terrible at times but I just felt some players did not respond with the normal Trinity mongrel spirit. This seemed to carry on into 2020 season during which some of our performances were pretty inexcusable IMO.

In fact, it wasn't until Eddie Battye arrived that we started to scrap again like we usually do. I think that's why most fans so wanted us to sign Battye, he seemed to bring with him that fighting spirit that used to be our trademark.

Perhaps, apart from the crippling injury situation and Covid, which for me covers about 95% of it, the other lacking 5% was that some players began to believe their own hype after the excellence of 2017/18. Sometimes it's that 5% that makes all the difference,

Chester now has two very able helpers to allow him to find those missing percentages again. Fingers crossed.

Re: Chris Chester Interview : Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:27 am  

Sky highlighting a certain players match stats also seemed to help.