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Re: Stand by for a good thrashing next week. : Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:44 am  
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Chester has put faith in the same line up three times now against SL opposition.

We are matching teams for a half but then seem to have a 20 minute spell where we fall to pieces. During those 20 minute spells we seem to lack a combination of discipline and resilient defence.

Something needs to change. There are a few key issues with what is happening on field.

Our 9 options are absolutely killing us. I won’t bag Crowther too much as it’s not his natural position but Josh Wood offers absolutely 0 in attack or effective distribution. We have been playing a 13 at 9 for 3 weeks now when we have a natural 9 in the stands who had a good spell against Dewsbury in pre season. I’m truly scratching my head on that one. I fear if Josh Wood is injured then we will see Crowther and Ashurst at 9 next week. It might be worth looking at the championship or for a decent 9 to bring in because if Wood is out long term and we are relying on a 33 year old 9 who hasn’t been able to run in 4 weeks to solve our roblems we are in deep baba.

The forwards just aren’t doing the business especially the second rowers. Again today Ashurst throwing all his body into a wall of players running his lines on the inside. I don’t know whether Miller is also the issue here but these two seem to have a magnet to find each other. When the ball needs to miss out Ashurst it hits him in the basket and he gets clobbered. Pitt’s always seems to be driving it in but not actually getting very far. We then have Green who along with Pitts/Ashurst can’t break a paper bag atm. It’s gone on for a few weeks now and we have players like Walker/Aydin sitting games out probably would bust a gut to play and offer something different at least. At this stage I’d play Eseh in front of Green.

Arona (like him and good player) isn’t a prop. Square peg I’m afraid.

Tupou is making terrible decisions on the break. Leeds he passes into full back with a clear run to line and today he didn’t draw the winger who was stood flat footed in no mans land and got an early pass away which was simply the wrong call. A lot of the players I’ve mentioned are the wrong side of 30 too and living off past glory. In Tupou case we have Arundel in the wings and Croft and there needs to be some serious consideration to bring in some fresh bodies.

So, blunt forwards (I’ll excuse Fifita and Westerman), no actual 9 and a few players off form. It’s a recipe for struggle.

With 6 days to saints I do t envy the coaching team as it seems like a hell of a mountain to climb looking at the next 3/4 fixtures. I think we need to switch a few things up and get some fresh bodies in like Walker/Tangata/Aydin/Arundel/Bowes/Kaye for starters and saints is probably the best game where most will expect us to get a pasting.

I can’t handle much more of seeing us not been in a contest when the final quarter is upon us. It’s soul destroying.

Unfortunately we are in the habit of losing yet again.


I said this at the time and the Leeds game too I know it's a split decision thing but the best teams always seem to make them and we don't im afraid.
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Re: Stand by for a good thrashing next week. : Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:33 pm  
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Chester has put faith in the same line up three times now against SL opposition.

We are matching teams for a half but then seem to have a 20 minute spell where we fall to pieces. During those 20 minute spells we seem to lack a combination of discipline and resilient defence.

Something needs to change. There are a few key issues with what is happening on field.

Our 9 options are absolutely killing us. I won’t bag Crowther too much as it’s not his natural position but Josh Wood offers absolutely 0 in attack or effective distribution. We have been playing a 13 at 9 for 3 weeks now when we have a natural 9 in the stands who had a good spell against Dewsbury in pre season. I’m truly scratching my head on that one. I fear if Josh Wood is injured then we will see Crowther and Ashurst at 9 next week. It might be worth looking at the championship or for a decent 9 to bring in because if Wood is out long term and we are relying on a 33 year old 9 who hasn’t been able to run in 4 weeks to solve our roblems we are in deep baba.

The forwards just aren’t doing the business especially the second rowers. Again today Ashurst throwing all his body into a wall of players running his lines on the inside. I don’t know whether Miller is also the issue here but these two seem to have a magnet to find each other. When the ball needs to miss out Ashurst it hits him in the basket and he gets clobbered. Pitt’s always seems to be driving it in but not actually getting very far. We then have Green who along with Pitts/Ashurst can’t break a paper bag atm. It’s gone on for a few weeks now and we have players like Walker/Aydin sitting games out probably would bust a gut to play and offer something different at least. At this stage I’d play Eseh in front of Green.

Arona (like him and good player) isn’t a prop. Square peg I’m afraid.

Tupou is making terrible decisions on the break. Leeds he passes into full back with a clear run to line and today he didn’t draw the winger who was stood flat footed in no mans land and got an early pass away which was simply the wrong call. A lot of the players I’ve mentioned are the wrong side of 30 too and living off past glory. In Tupou case we have Arundel in the wings and Croft and there needs to be some serious consideration to bring in some fresh bodies.

So, blunt forwards (I’ll excuse Fifita and Westerman), no actual 9 and a few players off form. It’s a recipe for struggle.

With 6 days to saints I do t envy the coaching team as it seems like a hell of a mountain to climb looking at the next 3/4 fixtures. I think we need to switch a few things up and get some fresh bodies in like Walker/Tangata/Aydin/Arundel/Bowes/Kaye for starters and saints is probably the best game where most will expect us to get a pasting.

I can’t handle much more of seeing us not been in a contest when the final quarter is upon us. It’s soul destroying.
the man can't break a tackle
Unfortunately we are in the habit of losing yet again.

How the hell can you excuse fifita Trojan is performances this season so far have been pathetic, he's a comical sight when the ball reaches his hands which itself is s rarity
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Re: Stand by for a good thrashing next week. : Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:46 pm  
[quote="jonh"]Salary cap spend generally dictates where you will finish in the league.

If we stay in SL it’s a good season.

If you expect more this year then you are kidding yourself. It was never going to be any different.[/quote

I got slagged at start of season has i said we would be in relagation battle and would take 11th spot.how refreshing it is to have somone else some kind of knowledge and can see the light.
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Re: Stand by for a good thrashing next week. : Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:48 pm  
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Have to agree with you there, Kendal had plenty of time along with the VR to review it, and the best he could come up with was to put it on report.

Think at worst he will get a caution
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Re: Stand by for a good thrashing next week. : Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:50 pm  
Well Max and TJ out.
Woods going for a scan on his elbow.
Chester says 2nd or 3rd choice players will need to put their hands up.
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Re: Stand by for a good thrashing next week. : Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:07 pm  
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Well Max and TJ out.
Woods going for a scan on his elbow.
Chester says 2nd or 3rd choice players will need to put their hands up.


I'm sure they have their hands permanently up but Chester is looking the other way.
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Re: Stand by for a good thrashing next week. : Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:08 pm  
What’s actually wrong with K Wood? last I heard he was going to miss the first couple of games?
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Re: Stand by for a good thrashing next week. : Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:23 pm  
The first couple and then said under is breath a few more as well .Think a 32 year old is going to make a lot of difference .Been ok but think to pin our hopes on him is a bit unfair on him
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Re: Stand by for a good thrashing next week. : Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:43 pm  
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I said this at the time and the Leeds game too I know it's a split decision thing but the best teams always seem to make them and we don't im afraid.

I agree. I'm not suggesting Arundel is the saviour but if he's fit he's a solid genuine centre who can draw in the opposition and put his winger away. Tupou is a converted winger to centre and off form.

Senior is a young lad getting battered week in week out.....give him a rest and put Tupou to wing.

I feel Tangata should be given a run and if not up to it lets see it on the pitch rather than a quota player sat in the stands.

I also believe Tanginoa should be put back to second row with hopefully the props being Fifita, Battye, Green, Tangata v St. Helens.

I think the second row options have not got size or impact and seem to appear off form so maybe there should be consideration to put Arona as the back row interchange (has he lost weight he looks smaller than last year?) who needs to be in the 17 but doesn't seem to be a natural prop in my opinion.

Johnstone injured then maybe give Kershaw an opportunity to help with go forward ....
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Re: Stand by for a good thrashing next week. : Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:35 pm  
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Think at worst he will get a caution

I really hope you're right but I thought he was lucky to stay on the field (could easily have been a yellow card, or worse) and was gobsmacked when the ref didn't award a penalty to Catalans and don't forget we are Wakefield and not Wigan, so if the Disciplinary Committee run to form then he will cop a ban :WALL: :WALL:
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