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Re: Profit : Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:46 pm  
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With the income reduced so much this year that is unbelievable work.

But let's not get carried away with the we are not skint thing.
We could easily have debts far in excess of that and deferred payments to HMRC.
Can't just go spend that on a player.

Not that unbelievable thanks to one word. Furlough.

When you consider the average 16% pay cut everyone took and we had virtually all our staff having 80% of their wages being paid by the government then our biggest outgoing by a long way was vastly reduced. Nicely managed definitely but i’d have expected nothing less from a man with the financial nous MC has.

Clubs like ours who don’t pay out rent for their ground will be the ones that come out of this best. We still though have the deferred £3 million mortgage to start paying in the not too distant future amongst other things so as good as it is the choppy waters are still around.
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Re: Profit : Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:47 pm  
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But surley we aint bought and payed yet


No but clearly you need to have made a profit to pay for it, basic economics Luppy.

Use that money on players you don’t get a pitch. Use it on a pitch that will make you revenue then eventually you will get the players.
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Re: Profit : Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:51 pm  
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Not that unbelievable thanks to one word. Furlough.

When you consider the average 16% pay cut everyone took and we had virtually all our staff having 80% of their wages being paid by the government then our biggest outgoing by a long way was vastly reduced. Nicely managed definitely but i’d have expected nothing less from a man with the financial nous MC has.

Clubs like ours who don’t pay out rent for their ground will be the ones that come out of this best. We still though have the deferred £3 million mortgage to start paying in the not too distant future amongst other things so as good as it is the choppy waters are still around.


Do you know it’s been deferred? Not the impression I got when talking to my besty but I can’t be certain.
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Re: Profit : Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:24 pm  
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Do you know it’s been deferred? Not the impression I got when talking to my besty but I can’t be certain.

Well we ain’t paid any of it back yet!

As i understand it the repayment start date was set to a future date (i forget how long, 3 or 4 years or something like that) will the aim of the ground being refurbished in that time and all the extra income that will bring to help fund the payments. That last bit, as you have possibly heard, is looking a little shakey right now so fingers crossed there.
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Re: Profit : Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:40 pm  
[quote="FIL"]I've tried finding the latest accounts but have only found this.....

https://find-and-update.company-informa ... ng-history

and the figures on there are for earlier in 2020, I think. (3rd PDF down)


BTW...looking at the first 2 entries - Termination of Appointment as Director - who were Natindarjit Kaur and Stuart Ambler and why would their appointments have been terminated ???[/quote

I believe you’re looking at the wrong accounts, what you’re are quoting is the Community Trust accounts and not Wakefield Trinity’s. If you look in Companies House for Spirit of 1873 Ltd that will show you the accounts for 2020.
[quote="FIL"]I've tried finding the latest accounts but have only found this.....

https://find-and-update.company-informa ... ng-history

and the figures on there are for earlier in 2020, I think. (3rd PDF down)


BTW...looking at the first 2 entries - Termination of Appointment as Director - who were Natindarjit Kaur and Stuart Ambler and why would their appointments have been terminated ???[/quote

I believe you’re looking at the wrong accounts, what you’re are quoting is the Community Trust accounts and not Wakefield Trinity’s. If you look in Companies House for Spirit of 1873 Ltd that will show you the accounts for 2020.
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Re: Profit : Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:11 pm  
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Rule number 3 :D
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Re: Profit : Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:41 pm  
FIL wrote:
I've tried finding the latest accounts but have only found this.....

https://find-and-update.company-informa ... ng-history

and the figures on there are for earlier in 2020, I think. (3rd PDF down)


BTW...looking at the first 2 entries - Termination of Appointment as Director - who were Natindarjit Kaur and Stuart Ambler and why would their appointments have been terminated ???


As has been already posted, I know Stuart and he was part of the Community Trust, as was I believe Natindarjit.
FIL wrote:
I've tried finding the latest accounts but have only found this.....

https://find-and-update.company-informa ... ng-history

and the figures on there are for earlier in 2020, I think. (3rd PDF down)


BTW...looking at the first 2 entries - Termination of Appointment as Director - who were Natindarjit Kaur and Stuart Ambler and why would their appointments have been terminated ???


As has been already posted, I know Stuart and he was part of the Community Trust, as was I believe Natindarjit.
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Re: Profit : Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:54 pm  
phe13 wrote:
I wouldn't jump up and down too much about 'profit', cashflow is the more important.


It's all about ability to service.
However, to register a profit in the year to November 2020, would still be a great effort, especially for any pro sports club.
There wont be too many other SL clubs posting any profit and it would certainly be interesting if there was a list for the 12 SL clubs.
Also, we are probably 12 months on from the last set of accounts and it certainly wont have been easy this year, with no crowds until relatively recently.
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Re: Profit : Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:27 pm  
Know that in theory the 192,000 pounds is just on paper but better than been 250,000 pounds in det As some one as posted would be nice to know the det of the so called bigger clubs think it could be going on for million +
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