FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Finance
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Moderator20864
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 04 200816 years6th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
10th Oct 24 00:279th Oct 24 20:32LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
wakefield
Signature
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha
Moderator

Re: Finance : Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:44 am  
wrencat1873 wrote:
It's never been a level playing field at Bradford, their pitch is like a dried up buffet sandwich, all curled up at the corners :D


That made me laugh.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain3072
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 13 20186 years49th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
9th Oct 24 22:014th Oct 24 14:41LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Behind the Sticks
Signature
We're all Trin aren't we?

Re: Finance : Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:59 am  
wrencat1873 wrote:
It's never been a level playing field at Bradford, their pitch is like a dried up buffet sandwich, all curled up at the corners :D


Its not just the club that went t*ts up then......
RankPostsTeam
International Star2615
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 19 201212 years88th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
9th Oct 24 22:578th Oct 24 16:54LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Finance : Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:53 pm  
PopTart wrote:
If you make the rich clubs poorer they can still afford the best available. It just reduces player wages.
You'll get top players going to NRL or Union.

So we'll get an even level but at championship level.

The way to make it even in a positive way iscto either make the clubs like ours richer, or limit what the big clubs can do, either salary cap or other ways like the NFL draft.

Agree a lot with last paragraph .But that was what the salary cap was supposed to do give every club a chance Work well till the so called big boys realised that the smaller clubs were beginning to beat them .So they decided to bring in the marque player ,then that was not enough so they wanted two (fans go on about losing our English players to union or Australia if it was not done, but most marque are past it Astralians that come hear) So it's the big boys who have caused the problem .Then we are supposed to feel sorry for them when it goes tits up.They do the draft in Ozz R L also other clubs can not come in and snap the young better players up at a club till they have been there till a certain age They get a lot bigger cap than us but some of it to run the club at a profitt They are light years in front of us in every thing they do .And they must be laughing there head off at the way a 3 match ban is looked as a big punishment in this country Think it starts at 8 in Ozz
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star2120No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 11 201114 years75th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
12th Sep 24 19:422nd Sep 24 07:52LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Wakefield
Signature
DONT TOUCH THE WATCH

Re: Finance : Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:12 pm  
In the NRL each club has to spend 95% of the salary cap, which is 3/4x’s bigger than ours.... obviously the NRL is the pinnacle of the sport, though obviously this does create issues as seen in recent years over there. There are still massive blow out scores, more than over here, example Melbourne vs Warriors this morning, there is still a massive gap between top teams and lower teams, like over here. Clubs are forced to sign players for more than what they are worth and then stuck with them Ie, Luke Brooks at the Tigers $1.2 million a year he’s on, tigers haven’t played finals rugby for god knows how long. Attracting decent players from the championship is also difficult, as discussed on a different thread, a lot have very good jobs, alongside their part time rugby wages, who would want to give that up. I look at Canterbury Bulldogs who have signed a load of high profile players Ie Addo -Carr, Burton, Pangai Jr, yet they are garbage, so throwing money at the problem isn’t going to clearly work. The pinnacle clubs like the Storm and Panthers (who have the biggest junior pool in Aus) have raised juniors to come through and any decent signings they make compliment the juniors coming through. Obviously this isn’t done over night, but we look like we have a good batch coming through for the first time in a while. St’s and Wigan are brimming with youth that have come through, Leeds let a great team grow too old without bringing more quality through, and now have tried to throw money at it ie Austin, Sezer etc and it clearly isn’t working.
Trinity1964 
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman
JoinedServiceReputation
23 years329th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
1st Jan 70 00:0020th Jun 22 17:41LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Finance : Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:37 pm  
Why do they continue to spend mega bucks on wages they cant afford. What will their players wage bill be compared to ours ?
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star2120No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 11 201114 years75th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
12th Sep 24 19:422nd Sep 24 07:52LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Wakefield
Signature
DONT TOUCH THE WATCH

Re: Finance : Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:48 pm  
Trinity1964 wrote:
Why do they continue to spend mega bucks on wages they cant afford. What will their players wage bill be compared to ours ?

It’s nothing to do with can’t afford as a lot of NRL teams actually run at a decent profit, it’s the point of spending the money correctly.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2753
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 10 20196 years70th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
9th Oct 24 19:439th Oct 24 14:04LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Horbury, a small town in Wakefield

Re: Finance : Tue Apr 26, 2022 1:50 pm  
John Kear has just left the Bradford Bulls, do we have enough financial clout if MC thought he would help WP?
djcool 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3189
JoinedServiceReputation
May 02 200519 years250th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
9th Oct 24 23:5127th Sep 24 18:17LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Halifax

Re: Finance : Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:30 pm  
Dunkirk Spirit wrote:
John Kear has just left the Bradford Bulls, do we have enough financial clout if MC thought he would help WP?

I'd love him to be DOR again
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star5225
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 23 201411 years92nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
9th Oct 24 22:198th Oct 24 22:08LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Finance : Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:35 pm  
I believe in Australia a lot of the income is generated from gambling in all its forms. I presume it still is but things could have changed.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman36095
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 13 200420 years18th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
8th Oct 24 17:297th Oct 24 08:31LINK
Milestone Posts
30000
40000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Poodle Power!
Signature
SUPPORT SWAG...

Re: Finance : Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:29 pm  
Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:
I believe in Australia a lot of the income is generated from gambling in all its forms. I presume it still is but things could have changed.


This used to be the case with the Leagues clubs but online gambling has reduced that income quite considerably.

I'm not sure how many of the current NRL clubs are still owned by a Leagues club.

Does anybody know?
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Cheese Sandwich, Droopy, Manuel, phe13, Trinity_lurcher and 351 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Wakefield Trinity


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
4m
Film game
Boss Hog
4199
29m
Has anyone got any idea what is going on
jbuzza
17
38m
Grand final Tickets
endoman
74
42m
Transfer Talk V5
chapylad
63
46m
Play-off Semi Final Toulouse A
kaybenbull
14
49m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62627
55m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Irregular Ho
3327
Recent
George Hirst
Itchy Arsena
18
Recent
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Grand Final
Mr Snoodle
9
Recent
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
Or thane
47
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
28s
Play-off Semi Final Toulouse A
kaybenbull
14
42s
Ashurst to depart
Big lads mat
9
46s
Grand final Tickets
endoman
74
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40209
1m
Squad 2024
Sideshow Bob
738
1m
Kit for Saturday
Pie Eyed
8
1m
Oli Leyland confirmed 2 year deal
Captain Hook
14
1m
New Players
Deadcowboys1
95
1m
Finn out Murrell in
Listenup94
37
2m
dan russell confirmed 2 year contract
Wires71
13
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Kit for Saturday
Pie Eyed
8
TODAY
George Hirst
Itchy Arsena
18
TODAY
Player of the Season 2024
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
Released Players List
Jemmo
4
TODAY
IN 2025 Jake Connor - Expires 2026
Seth
18
TODAY
Has anyone got any idea what is going on
jbuzza
17
TODAY
Awards
The Avenger
11
TODAY
dan russell confirmed 2 year contract
Wires71
13
TODAY
Play-off Semi Final Toulouse A
kaybenbull
14
TODAY
2025 Catalans Dragons Kit
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
Oli Leyland confirmed 2 year deal
Captain Hook
14
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Grand Final
Mr Snoodle
9
TODAY
Transfer Talk V5
chapylad
63
TODAY
OUT 2025 Leon Ruan - Released
chapylad
13
TODAY
IN 2025 Cooper Jenkins - Expires 2026
christopher
26
TODAY
Search Sexy Girls from your city for night - Authentic Damse
excruciating
2
TODAY
IN 2025 Keenan Palasia - Expires 2026
BigRoy
13
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Grand Final
FoxyRhino
1
TODAY
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back Grand Finals
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
NRL
Deadcowboys1
4
TODAY
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth Consecutive Title
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Seeking favourite images from grounds - past or present
retrosports
1
TODAY
Grand final Tickets
endoman
74
TODAY
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
Wildthing
3
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
501
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
602
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
450
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
595
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
606
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
999
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
1072
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1443
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1604
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1372
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1752
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1573
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1696
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
2032
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
2570
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Sat 12th Oct
SL
18:00
Hull KR-Wigan
Sun 13th Oct
CH
15:00
Swinton-Hunslet
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sun 6th Oct
L1 26 Keighley6-20Hunslet
CH 29 Bradford25-12Featherstone
WSL2024 16 York V18-8St.HelensW
NRL 31 Melbourne6-14Penrith
Sat 5th Oct
CH 29 York27-10Widnes
SL 29 Wigan38-0Leigh
Fri 4th Oct
SL 29 Hull KR10-8Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 28 759 336 423 46
Hull KR 28 729 335 394 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 26 1010 262 748 50
Bradford 27 703 399 304 36
Toulouse 25 744 368 376 35
York 28 682 479 203 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Swinton 27 474 670 -196 18
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 0 0 0 0 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
4m
Film game
Boss Hog
4199
29m
Has anyone got any idea what is going on
jbuzza
17
38m
Grand final Tickets
endoman
74
42m
Transfer Talk V5
chapylad
63
46m
Play-off Semi Final Toulouse A
kaybenbull
14
49m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62627
55m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Irregular Ho
3327
Recent
George Hirst
Itchy Arsena
18
Recent
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Grand Final
Mr Snoodle
9
Recent
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
Or thane
47
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
28s
Play-off Semi Final Toulouse A
kaybenbull
14
42s
Ashurst to depart
Big lads mat
9
46s
Grand final Tickets
endoman
74
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40209
1m
Squad 2024
Sideshow Bob
738
1m
Kit for Saturday
Pie Eyed
8
1m
Oli Leyland confirmed 2 year deal
Captain Hook
14
1m
New Players
Deadcowboys1
95
1m
Finn out Murrell in
Listenup94
37
2m
dan russell confirmed 2 year contract
Wires71
13
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Kit for Saturday
Pie Eyed
8
TODAY
George Hirst
Itchy Arsena
18
TODAY
Player of the Season 2024
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
Released Players List
Jemmo
4
TODAY
IN 2025 Jake Connor - Expires 2026
Seth
18
TODAY
Has anyone got any idea what is going on
jbuzza
17
TODAY
Awards
The Avenger
11
TODAY
dan russell confirmed 2 year contract
Wires71
13
TODAY
Play-off Semi Final Toulouse A
kaybenbull
14
TODAY
2025 Catalans Dragons Kit
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
Oli Leyland confirmed 2 year deal
Captain Hook
14
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Grand Final
Mr Snoodle
9
TODAY
Transfer Talk V5
chapylad
63
TODAY
OUT 2025 Leon Ruan - Released
chapylad
13
TODAY
IN 2025 Cooper Jenkins - Expires 2026
christopher
26
TODAY
Search Sexy Girls from your city for night - Authentic Damse
excruciating
2
TODAY
IN 2025 Keenan Palasia - Expires 2026
BigRoy
13
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Grand Final
FoxyRhino
1
TODAY
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back Grand Finals
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
NRL
Deadcowboys1
4
TODAY
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth Consecutive Title
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Seeking favourite images from grounds - past or present
retrosports
1
TODAY
Grand final Tickets
endoman
74
TODAY
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
Wildthing
3
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
501
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
602
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
450
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
595
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
606
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
999
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
1072
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1443
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1604
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1372
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1752
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1573
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1696
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
2032
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
2570


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!