Re: John Minards Interview : Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:40 pm  

Kettykat wrote:

Not good listening for the doom n gloom merchants amongst us that’s for sure , who moan at every conceivable opportunity,I’ve always been of the opinion , let the powers that be do their jobs and I’ll do mine ,which is support the club . Yes it’s nice to know players signing or moving on and stadium updates , but do we really need to be looking on companies house and dragging anything slightly connected to the club that puts us in a bad light , I just don’t get the negativity. Sure we all get fed up with the team losing and the upgrades dragging on for years , but we are finally approaching a new dawn at the club ,and I know this is a forum for discussing club matters and it’s great , but jeez we do fall into the chicken little syndrome far too easily and quick to call all n sundry. Listen to Minards and you’ll see they all have the clubs and ours best interest at the very heart of all they do whether you like it or not , and if you don’t like the way it’s run raid the piggy bank and get on the board , it’s so easy to sit back and pull things to pieces , it’s much harder at the coal face being one of only two clubs in super league without a sugar daddy bank rolling us .

Re: John Minards Interview : Tue Jun 14, 2022 8:22 pm  

there's a mucky old mattress been in the ginnel behind St Catherine Street for months. If it's still there for the Wigan game I'm gonna have it.

Re: John Minards Interview : Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:46 am  

sat through the entire interview last night and enjoyed every moment of it...

he is about 18 months younger than me so our experiences are very similar... my interest began in 75 but peaked around 78 through 84... home and away ... cars full of mates... moved away from Wakey ... worked in London and overseas

one of the most surreal times for me was about 92/3 waiting for the results being printed in the South China Morning Post!... and they were ...usually with a small write up.

seems a genuinely nice guy ,,, glad to have him on board.

Re: John Minards Interview : Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:09 am  

Spookisback wrote:

sat through the entire interview last night and enjoyed every moment of it...

he is about 18 months younger than me so our experiences are very similar... my interest began in 75 but peaked around 78 through 84... home and away ... cars full of mates... moved away from Wakey ... worked in London and overseas

one of the most surreal times for me was about 92/3 waiting for the results being printed in the South China Morning Post!... and they were ...usually with a small write up.

seems a genuinely nice guy ,,, glad to have him on board.

I’ve met him once and he was very chatty in a good way. One of those instantly likeable types with no obvious edge.

Such a shame people like him and MC weren’t in a position to run the club twenty years ago. I suspect we’d be a lot further on if they had.

Don’t want to be snobby but Price Waterhouse partner versus market trader? I am one of the few on here who still appreciates what Ted did in his own odd way but there really is no comparison in terms of financial ability.

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Re: John Minards Interview : Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:00 am  

One thing he said was that we haven't decided whether to go with 4/5G pitch or go with enhanced grass.
I don't know enough about it but what is the difference, and what will sway our decision (apart from cost)

Re: John Minards Interview : Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:37 am  

PopTart wrote:

One thing he said was that we haven't decided whether to go with 4/5G pitch or go with enhanced grass.
I don't know enough about it but what is the difference, and what will sway our decision (apart from cost)

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Re: John Minards Interview : Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:38 am  

PopTart wrote:

One thing he said was that we haven't decided whether to go with 4/5G pitch or go with enhanced grass.
I don't know enough about it but what is the difference, and what will sway our decision (apart from cost)

If the stadium is going to be a genuine community facility then 4G, purely financially, is the way to go, both in terms of usage, revenue and especially maintenance costs.

However hybrid has its advantages.

On a 4G pitch you can play literally 24/7. A hybrid pitch could possibly sustain about 4 hours a day for training and two to three matches a week max in summer. In winter it could manage 1-2 matches a week but absolutely no training so long as the drainage is top notch.

However a hybrid pitch would appeal far more to a secondary sport such as Wakefield FC or Leeds RU for example. They are both winter games and with sensible fixtures they would only be used once or twice a week for games. The rent you'd get from one or both of these would be substantial.

In terms of revenue it would probably be fairly similar but your community usage would be limited to very occasional events (maybe one a month, BARLA finals that kind of thing).

From memory a hybrid pitch depending on the mix will give you roughly three times the usage and will be far more resistant to cutting up in winter.

It really depends on which market will provide us the best revenue and how accepting WMDC are.

I think Hudds is a hybrid pith, might be wrong. It sustains to pro clubs and always looks immaculate so it you could try and find out how many games a year are played on it by both clubs and reserves etc.

Re: John Minards Interview : Wed Jun 15, 2022 12:46 pm  

vastman wrote:

Don’t want to be snobby but Price Waterhouse partner versus market trader? I am one of the few on here who still appreciates what Ted did in his own odd way but there really is no comparison in terms of financial ability.

Ted was ok … he did his best… I met him many times

As with many of our owners he came along at the right time when the club was in need…

personally I’m no lover of PWC or any other of the big financial/ management consultancies… that said, there are some very good people buried in their archaic organisations.

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Re: John Minards Interview : Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:32 pm  

vastman wrote:

If the stadium is going to be a genuine community facility then 4G, purely financially, is the way to go, both in terms of usage, revenue and especially maintenance costs.

However hybrid has its advantages.

On a 4G pitch you can play literally 24/7. A hybrid pitch could possibly sustain about 4 hours a day for training and two to three matches a week max in summer. In winter it could manage 1-2 matches a week but absolutely no training so long as the drainage is top notch.

However a hybrid pitch would appeal far more to a secondary sport such as Wakefield FC or Leeds RU for example. They are both winter games and with sensible fixtures they would only be used once or twice a week for games. The rent you'd get from one or both of these would be substantial.

In terms of revenue it would probably be fairly similar but your community usage would be limited to very occasional events (maybe one a month, BARLA finals that kind of thing).

From memory a hybrid pitch depending on the mix will give you roughly three times the usage and will be far more resistant to cutting up in winter.

It really depends on which market will provide us the best revenue and how accepting WMDC are.

I think Hudds is a hybrid pith, might be wrong. It sustains to pro clubs and always looks immaculate so it you could try and find out how many games a year are played on it by both clubs and reserves etc.

Thank you. I knew you'd know.

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Re: John Minards Interview : Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:35 pm  

Spookisback wrote:

Ted was ok … he did his best… I met him many times

As with many of our owners he came along at the right time when the club was in need…

personally I’m no lover of PWC or any other of the big financial/ management consultancies… that said, there are some very good people buried in their archaic organisations.

PWC has many arms, not always popular as they deal with companies in trouble and audits but I have worked with the a lot and I can say with a lot of certainty they don't employ mugs. If Minnards was a partner then he's a great addition to our board who can easily match it with councillors and building contractors. More so than MC to be honest.