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Re: Jacob Miller : Sun Jul 10, 2022 3:15 pm  
He's an appalling Captain.
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Re: Jacob Miller : Sun Jul 10, 2022 4:09 pm  
I have to say, a big thing we are missing and have missed since JD is a captain.

Miller puts a lot of effort in but he isn't the one to inspire others around him imho.
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Re: Jacob Miller : Sun Jul 10, 2022 4:14 pm  
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I have to say, a big thing we are missing and have missed since JD is a captain.

Miller puts a lot of effort in but he isn't the one to inspire others around him imho.


Miller’s game has probably suffered because of the extra responsibility that comes with Captaincy.
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Re: Jacob Miller : Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:01 pm  
Given the state we are in there shud be plenty of players shouting and encouraging each other !! Pitts, Ashurst , Fifita…Arona to name but a few …all seasoned professionals !! Watching Wigan/Saints Cas etc it’s hard sometime to spot who is captain because there are multiple players giving input throughout the game both in encouragement or ranting !!
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Re: Jacob Miller : Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:04 pm  
Dont think I can recall Kirmond or Demetriou shouting v much when things weren’t going well … they both led by example on the field but no ranting at players behind the posts after conceding etc .
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Re: Jacob Miller : Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:09 pm  
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Dont think I can recall Kirmond or Demetriou shouting v much when things weren’t going well … they both led by example on the field but no ranting at players behind the posts after conceding etc .


That’s probably because they didn’t have to but by god it’s needed now!
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Re: Jacob Miller : Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:11 pm  
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That’s probably because they didn’t have to but by god it’s needed now!

Ha … selective memory I think there !! Lol
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Re: Jacob Miller : Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:21 pm  
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Dont think I can recall Kirmond or Demetriou shouting v much when things weren’t going well … they both led by example on the field but no ranting at players behind the posts after conceding etc .


JD definitely did. There are lots of photos and clips of him barking orders.
All the players from that era comment on him as a leader on their podcast.
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Re: Jacob Miller : Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:36 pm  
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I am not normally one for singling out players for criticism but I thought he was really poor today apart from the 40 20. I have never thought he was really captain material.. He doesn't appear to show leadership when we go behind. For me we should let him go . We should be trying to keep players like Batch who always give 100 percent and despite his stupidity today we need to keep Fifita and stop wasting money on over 30s players who have been rejected by other clubs .

LMS is 36 and shows more pride , passion and effort than most of our players at half his age .Props are coming into their prime at around 30 , its not the signing of players of any age , it’s getting players that want to play for us ,that’s the problem ,and not treating us as a holiday camp ,or retirement home . Oust them at the earliest opportunity I say ,clear the decks . On a personal note I couldn’t give a monkeys if their 19 or 29 as long as they put the effort in and show pride in wearing the shirt ,something that has been sadly lacking for far too long by far too many ,and it’s simply unsustainable.
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Re: Jacob Miller : Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:25 pm  
The club seems to be in limp mode, could it be because of the uncertainty regarding certain players.
I'm sure the club know now who will be stopping and who's going.
I personally don't know if Miller s a good player or not, I never have. He seems to float in and out of games without breaking any pots and very rarely has a barnstorming game.
I think he will probably go but who's available in our present situation.
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