Re: Full Time KR 15 - Trinity 10 : Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:38 pm  

lampyboy wrote:

What a sad bunch you are, SL not our level.
The clubs had 6 years to get things right under Carter and just bobble along season after season
Time for him to sell the club for a quid and do one

Only problem, there isn't anyone wanting/willing to buy it otherwise they would've done.

Re: Full Time KR 15 - Trinity 10 : Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:44 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

For those who were around in the era just after the 60s, followed by the fight to get back into the top flight in the mid 90s and subsequently the euphoria of winning the Grand Final at a Night to Remember over in Huddersfield, I am furious at how we are so apathetic about getting relegated.

We fought so hard to win our place in SL, we kicked the doors in when they tried to deny us, we surpassed all expectations in that 1st season when they refused to offer us any SL money and Andy Kelly’s teams were the epitome of true Wakefield Trinity players, they never buckled to anyone!

I am not looking forward to being relegated and don’t accept that “the club will find its natural level” crap

Tell the players that not the fans who have spent their hard earned money supporting these nobbers play the way they have all year. The fans do there bit and the team and coaching staff aren’t doing there’s. The majority of our SL seasons have been a shower of poo and until we find some money to actually compete than the championship is where we’ll be. I’ll support them

Re: Full Time KR 15 - Trinity 10 : Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:50 pm  

Pat Bateman wrote:

Tell the players that not the fans who have spent their hard earned money supporting these nobbers play the way they have all year. The fans do there bit and the team and coaching staff aren’t doing there’s. The majority of our SL seasons have been a shower of poo and until we find some money to actually compete than the championship is where we’ll be. I’ll support them

I’m referring to the BoD who don’t seem to give a tish about the club being relegated
Their apathetic approach and frivolous gambling with the clubs playing future smacks of total arrogance and detachment

Re: Full Time KR 15 - Trinity 10 : Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:52 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

I’m referring to the BoD who don’t seem to give a Trish about the club being relegated
Their apathetic approach and frivolous gambling with the clubs playing future smacks of total arrogance and detachment

Their days of playing “money ball” has finally gone balls up and basically put us back 23 years. I still Blame the players personally

Re: Full Time KR 15 - Trinity 10 : Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:00 pm  

Pat Bateman wrote:

Their days of playing “money ball” has finally gone balls up and basically put us back 23 years. I still Blame the players personally

I blame the players to a degree, but then some clown:

-Allowed Chester to waste this years budget on crap
- Gave three year deals to Hood, Lineham and Ashurst
-Let Hampshire, a player who actually was committed to the team , to leave and replace him with bargain bionic man
-signed Rob Butler

Re: Full Time KR 15 - Trinity 10 : Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:01 pm  

Trojan Horse wrote:

It would be a refreshing change to play some different clubs next season but only if we invest in a team capable of topping the league.

If we go down the London/Bulls route of part time team we will lose fans quicker than you can imagine.

We need to stay mostly full time and challenge our way back to promotion. A winning team in the league below would be vital and could even grow the fan base with success on the field.

The only thing that would upset me is losing players like Murphy, Hall, Eseh, Shaw etc who look like they can become very good SL players with a couple of years. I would hope we would offer them good full time deals to remain at trinity and get us back promoted.

There is zero chance of staying fulltime. The TV money in the new deal is none existent and believe no longer includes a parachute payment. Sponsorship and hospitality value decreases so imcome there is hit. Ticket prices have to reduce, you can charge premium prices for a second tier product. The list goes on. We are screwed with relegation.

Re: Full Time KR 15 - Trinity 10 : Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:04 pm  

Willzay wrote:

I blame the players to a degree, but then some clown:

-Allowed Chester to waste this years budget on crap
- Gave three year deals to Hood, Lineham and Ashurst
-Let Hampshire, a player who actually was committed to the team , to leave and replace him with bargain bionic man
-signed Rob Butler

All relevant points

Re: Full Time KR 15 - Trinity 10 : Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:56 pm  

Willzay wrote:

Stuff what Bigmouth says this is on the owners.

Maybe you have new owners in mind then? Please let us know who

Re: Full Time KR 15 - Trinity 10 : Sun Jul 17, 2022 6:04 pm  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

Only problem, there isn't anyone wanting/willing to buy it otherwise they would've done.

Michael has done what he can with small resources. If I have a criticism, it's around recruitment and failing to try to address key positions but, as he has often said, bring me 2-3 thousand more fans and he'll deliver a better squad.
He has managed to get us to a place nobody has in 50+ years; a modern and renovated ground. Nobody knows for sure what is coming in super league but clubs like ours are invaluable to rugby league and I suspect we are not as unpopular as the paranoia we sometimes feel.
Our luck looks like it has run out. I don't think anyone else could have done a better job with the club since Michael took over post Glover collapse. Between the shenanigans of wmdc and York Court, covid, which is always going to affect smaller clubs more and some rank bad luck with injuries for 4 years, his good stewardship looks like is not getting its just rewards. Thanks for your efforts Michael
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Re: Full Time KR 15 - Trinity 10 : Sun Jul 17, 2022 6:11 pm  

Sacred Cow wrote:

There is zero chance of staying fulltime. The TV money in the new deal is none existent and believe no longer includes a parachute payment. Sponsorship and hospitality value decreases so imcome there is hit. Ticket prices have to reduce, you can charge premium prices for a second tier product. The list goes on. We are screwed with relegation.

Yes there is no parachute payment all clubs were remined of that this week by the RFL. The other thing to account for is that although new facilities will give a financial boost, once the club stary to use them ,the ground mortgage kicks in. This could eat up all the benefits. If our B.o.D are still around , i really cant see them putting their own money in so part time looks to be the only solution i would have thought.