Re: Carter programme notes.. : Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:40 pm  

Negativity.
Prime examples are Kevin Proctor and Renouf Atoni. They are being paid. Fans are not. Their apparent total lack of effort and interest, time on the field of play, has a negative effect on people’s attitudes.
17 players giving 100% and losing shows fans players are giving effort and creates a positive memory.

Re: Carter programme notes.. : Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:50 pm  

Sacred Cow wrote:

Having a dig is exactly what he’s doing. And whilst he might be right that negativity doesn’t help things there is a way of doing things to help that situation and that isn’t it by a long way. In fact it appears to have further alienated many ‘fans’, including this one. Although i have to say his statement doesn’t surprise one iota.

Just a couple of points, J M has said he welcomes social media interactions with the fans But will Not respond to online Abuse, you can’t blame anyone but the abusers for that. I honestly believe he will listen to constructive criticism but not abuse.
Hull FC owner has also made a public plea for the Hull fans to get behind and support his club during their current crisis,, I’m not sure if he received the same amount of abuse from the Hull fans as Some Trinity fans dish out to MC and JM. Perhaps the Hull fans are a more tolerant lot.

Re: Carter programme notes.. : Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:03 pm  

We the supporters must stop being negative about all aspects of the club and accept what we are given without question because to not do so is tantamount to treason. It is a shame he does not adopt the same standards when he writes or speaks about us, we are not an inconvenience we will still be paying our money long after he leaves.

Re: Carter programme notes.. : Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:16 pm  

Hard not to be negative about a side that’s set a SL record for nillings.

Re: Carter programme notes.. : Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:16 pm  

Nine games in!

Re: Carter programme notes.. : Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:30 pm  

Am i missing something? Get behind the club and players ,support them, we're all in this together ,then with our worst squad & superleague start in living memory. An announcement which coulld have been sat on for the sake of club stability. "i'm off" we're all in it together are we mr carter? Your contempt for the fans is recipricated pal. But i will say its a shame for you, but even worse for the fans the legacy you look like leaving

Re: Carter programme notes.. : Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:57 pm  

PopTart wrote:

He isn't having a dig at the supporters. He's pointing out that negativity towards the players and staff only makes it worse.

Nothing wrong with voicing opinion, in fact John M often says he welcomes it, but just blank negativity which often comes from some fans is just not helpful.

However, I think he's naive if he thinks this will change it

Of course he's having a dig. It's one of those snide, below the belt ones, which it's not the first time he's lashed out at fans like this.

Like Mopsey, I can't believe people are still taken in by him. He doesn't pull the wool over my eyes.

He's alienating so many fans right now, I've heard several, long term fans saying they're not going until he's gone, which does nothing to help, but at the same time, neither does his poor attitude to supporters.

I've said it time and time again, no person is bigger than the club, its colours or badge. Not even a self confessed messiah that he believes he is.

Re: Carter programme notes.. : Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:18 pm  

Eastern Wildcat wrote:

Of course he's having a dig. It's one of those snide, below the belt ones, which it's not the first time he's lashed out at fans like this.

Like Mopsey, I can't believe people are still taken in by him. He doesn't pull the wool over my eyes.

He's alienating so many fans right now, I've heard several, long term fans saying they're not going until he's gone, which does nothing to help, but at the same time, neither does his poor attitude to supporters.

I've said it time and time again, no person is bigger than the club, its colours or badge. Not even a self confessed messiah that he believes he is.

What colours RWB or the thing we have this year, which I quite like, but it's not RWB

Re: Carter programme notes.. : Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:19 pm  

PopTart wrote:

He isn't having a dig at the supporters. He's pointing out that negativity towards the players and staff only makes it worse.

Nothing wrong with voicing opinion, in fact John M often says he welcomes it, but just blank negativity which often comes from some fans is just not helpful.

However, I think he's naive if he thinks this will change it

Come on PT - you’ve been round the traps for a while. MC is a narcissist and hates criticism and being told what to do - you know this as much as I do, and others that have dealt with him to some degree. It’s not a personal slant on MC, some people are just like that by nature.

I know there are people on here who continually bang on about it, and the personal stuff is absolutely unacceptable, but MC is making unveiled swipes at supporters again because he knows they are correct.

[PopTart]

Re: Carter programme notes.. : Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:01 pm  

BackSeatCoach wrote:

Come on PT - you’ve been round the traps for a while. MC is a narcissist and hates criticism and being told what to do - you know this as much as I do, and others that have dealt with him to some degree. It’s not a personal slant on MC, some people are just like that by nature.

I know there are people on here who continually bang on about it, and the personal stuff is absolutely unacceptable, but MC is making unveiled swipes at supporters again because he knows they are correct.

I do know that he doesnt like criticism, which is why I said Minnards and not Carter.

But the personal stuff he and Chester in the past had to suffer is more than unacceptable. And although I think he should stay off social media, I'd also react like he does.