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Re: Win loss ratio : Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:19 am  
Average points scored with Lino in the halves 6.2

Average without 23.75.

Perhaps too simplistic but still it's quite a variation.
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Re: Win loss ratio : Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:29 am  
:CRAZY: :CRAZY: Applegarth at fault here,we've had a shocking start turned a bit of a corner with players sheer grit & bloody mindedness.whitbread a blow, but all problems stemmed from slow ball, dagger & kaye even hood looked different players against salford.To bring in lino who brings slow ball,indecision,poor defense is mind numbing.This is a poor coaching decision again,gayle although old has the skills & experience to lead us this guy just dosen't. As a lifelong fan only thing i know is to let the lads who give their all dig us out of this as our history shows, im not interested in nrl rejects or their contracts we've had countless flops.Please just stick with the winning team & back them as the fans are who travelled to shuds to watch the same crap he's produced in all his previous outings,crap decision mark also a kick in the teeth for a now bouyant squad.
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Re: Win loss ratio : Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:33 am  
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Average points scored with Lino in the halves 6.2

Average without 23.75.

Perhaps too simplistic but still it's quite a variation.

Or to put it another way, we have scored more points in the 4 games where he didn't feature compared to the 15 he has.

95 vs 93.
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Re: Win loss ratio : Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:38 am  
He had a poor game but we set him up that way.
Just back from injury
We take his half back partner away after 14 minutes, hooker after 28 and give him a beaten pack with the opposition hitting us with great line speed and players who can't catch the ball.

It's never just one player.
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Re: Win loss ratio : Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:42 am  
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He had a poor game but we set him up that way.
Just back from injury
We take his half back partner away after 14 minutes, hooker after 28 and give him a beaten pack with the opposition hitting us with great line speed and players who can't catch the ball.

It's never just one player.

Fair enough yesterday, but the rest of the season?
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Re: Win loss ratio : Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:51 am  
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Or to put it another way, we have scored more points in the 4 games where he didn't feature compared to the 15 he has.

95 vs 93.

It doesn't really matter if that stat is causation or correlation, the question is why bring him back given what had happened in the games without him and after last week's high?
Conversely it never is one player Poptart is right, but again why bring him back given the bare facts you have just pointed out?
We'd clearly have got thumped either way, but would we have scored more points :?:
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Re: Win loss ratio : Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:54 am  
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Sorry but think people are blinkered if they blame tonight's performance just on lino Huddersfield have a good team compared to ours and showed tonight. They were younger fitter and a yard quicker all round. I cannot fault our efforts, especially amount of possession Huddersfield had for most of the game. We are too slow in a lot of areas i.e both centres, back row . Wa lot to make up but wouldn't surprise me if Huddersfield don't go near making the play offs.


I dont think hes been judged solely on tonight. How mamy games in 3 seasons has he actually taken a game by the scruff of the neck, and shown what hes capable of.

Yes, we are really slow, and ageing, and the trend of buying ageing players need to stop. At the moment, with a changing of the guard, it doesnt seem to be changing.

We have too many players in the squad that are either at the end if their careers, or very young and inexperienced, with very few around their peak.
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Re: Win loss ratio : Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:47 am  
i think we just stop wasting money on overseas players { apart from Fifita). The fact is we cannot afford regular NRL players so we end up with NRL has beens ( proctor ) or second rate players who cannot get a place in an NRL team ( too many to mention ). I know we have occasionally struck lucky ( Fifita ) but we should be competing for the best young British players especially local lads. I know that competing with the top teams is difficult when you are at the bottom but if we didnt waste money on overseas dross we could offer more plus they are more likely to get regular first team rugby than at other teams.
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Re: Win loss ratio : Sat Jul 15, 2023 9:07 am  
If we also stopped going cheaper and cheaper on coaching appointments too…
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Re: Win loss ratio : Sat Jul 15, 2023 9:18 am  
Did lino have a game before returning? This was never an easy fixture, to change a half back pairing that did well against wigan just showed why we need a quality coach or assistant this isn't acadamey or schoarship rugby
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