Re: Kershaw to Salford : Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:20 am  

alegend wrote:

Vastman I do not believe it, Just makes me ANGRY that two or 3 guys worked there socks of to get the club were it is,,and get stick , And clubs getaway with blatant cheating, and are just laughing at us

Who cheated London got promoted on merit and our history does not make a good argument against any club on handling or financing. We survived many scares with regards our very existence both on and definitely off field problems. We were relegated unfortunately we have to live with that fact, other teams played better which granted was not too high a bar.
We are now in a fortunate place with regards IMG’s rating structure a developing ground and now a financier with real money who is willing to spend and a desire to see us progress not just survive.
The current position we are in does not suddenly allow us to question others , they like us in the past will do what they have to do to continue in SL.

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Re: Kershaw to Salford : Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:06 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Who cheated London got promoted on merit and our history does not make a good argument against any club on handling or financing. We survived many scares with regards our very existence both on and definitely off field problems. We were relegated unfortunately we have to live with that fact, other teams played better which granted was not too high a bar.
We are now in a fortunate place with regards IMG’s rating structure a developing ground and now a financier with real money who is willing to spend and a desire to see us progress not just survive.
The current position we are in does not suddenly allow us to question others , they like us in the past will do what they have to do to continue in SL.

I agree with most of what you say but Salford are setting themselves up for failure for short term gain.
We have not had financial issues for a long time now but suffered because we managed things correctly.
So I understand why people think it's unfair that they get away with it. It seems its all going to catch up with them now.

On other posts above, IMG do not run the game. They are consultants who's advice and guidelines we are following but RFL is still running things.
There is no relegation 'on and off' the field now. Only off.

Re: Kershaw to Salford : Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:28 pm  

alegend wrote:

Vastman I do not believe it, Just makes me ANGRY that two or 3 guys worked there socks of to get the club were it is,,and get stick , And clubs getaway with blatant cheating, and are just laughing at us

Couldn’t agree more.

Re: Kershaw to Salford : Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:41 pm  

vastman wrote:

You believe that you’ll believe anything.

It’s simple, there is nobody to replace them for this season ourselves included. It would be too embarrassing.

We now have two lame duck clubs in SL. One will almost certainly get relegated both on and off the pitch, and one that might not complete the season.

If ever there was a reason why IMG should run the game this is it. The RFL have known about Salfords unsustainability for years now and done nothing.

Like a few others the moment Salford moved away from there home they were done for IMHO.

I agree with your last point, that was a ridiculous decision and I was never a fan of Newmarket and even Carter hated the idea, it could of killed us.
The big problem with our game at the moment for me is We are simply not producing top class players anymore, I.think we had a chance under franchising before and we ended up wasting money on overseas players instead of bringing our own through and fazing imports out. We as a club show we can produce a certain amount of players but they don't kick on to say wigan or St's level. A hotbed like cas hardly produce players anymore so Salford have no chance so pick the released players from all over and pay them a bomb. Under IMG we have got to make developing players a priority and stop spending stupid money overseas, it's the only way forward for me.

Re: Kershaw to Salford : Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:26 pm  

Changed to Leigh Leopards now

Re: Kershaw to Salford : Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:58 pm  

Well he hasn't signed for Leeds... https://www.totalrl.com/leeds-rhinos-bo ... w-futures/

Well he hasn't signed for Leeds... https://www.totalrl.com/leeds-rhinos-bo ... w-futures/

Re: Kershaw to Salford : Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:25 pm  

Dr Dreadnought wrote:

Changed to Leigh Leopards now

It’s gone from Leeds, London, Cas, Salford, Leigh I think so far according to that pages ‘articles’.

Re: Kershaw to Salford : Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:10 am  

Salford are desperate for a Matt Ellis type savior now.

It’s clear to see they have had to asset strip with the sale of Croft and Ackers to balance the books, but to be fair, credit where it is due for their recruitment strategy as they have a history of unearthing gems.

I really worried for them on the field not just off it however and by fair means or foul they have again managed to pull together on paper a team that will be more than competitive in SL in 2024.

It’s all though short termism they cannot have a longer strategic plan without serious investment which at the moment looks unlikely to come, they are constantly fighting fires and seemingly doing it very well but sooner or later they are going to run out of water.

In relation to Kersh, it’s a strange situation. He’s certainly good enough for SL, I’d rather we kept him rather than bring in Jerry to be honest but he’s made his position clear on being a SL player so good luck to him.

He won’t be on the biggest salary in the world so it seems very strange he can’t yet nail a club and I do wonder (pure speculation on my part I hasten to add) if he is being advised correctly.

Re: Kershaw to Salford : Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:10 pm  

jonh wrote:

Salford are desperate for a Matt Ellis type savior now.

It’s clear to see they have had to asset strip with the sale of Croft and Ackers to balance the books, but to be fair, credit where it is due for their recruitment strategy as they have a history of unearthing gems.

I really worried for them on the field not just off it however and by fair means or foul they have again managed to pull together on paper a team that will be more than competitive in SL in 2024.

It’s all though short termism they cannot have a longer strategic plan without serious investment which at the moment looks unlikely to come, they are constantly fighting fires and seemingly doing it very well but sooner or later they are going to run out of water.

In relation to Kersh, it’s a strange situation. He’s certainly good enough for SL, I’d rather we kept him rather than bring in Jerry to be honest but he’s made his position clear on being a SL player so good luck to him.

He won’t be on the biggest salary in the world so it seems very strange he can’t yet nail a club and I do wonder (pure speculation on my part I hasten to add) if he is being advised correctly.

Regards Kershaw. McGillvray I have some level of scepticism about his signing however he is a model professional and I am sure he will put in performances that will quickly make my reservations evaporate. He is a solid pro who looks after himself afterall. It’s more the injury that I am hoping he is fully over. I really hope he has an excellent season to finish what has been a stellar career both for him and trinity in 2024.

Kershaw - I think would be a very good addition for the right wing in the championship. His carries would be invaluable but I do also think he would find more opportunities to score. I would be happy to see him on the wing this season or challenging for a spot on the wing. If it’s not to be though then we do have 3 good wing options for 2024.

Re: Kershaw to Salford : Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:07 pm  

Trojan Horse wrote:

Regards Kershaw. McGillvray I have some level of scepticism about his signing however he is a model professional and I am sure he will put in performances that will quickly make my reservations evaporate. He is a solid pro who looks after himself afterall. It’s more the injury that I am hoping he is fully over. I really hope he has an excellent season to finish what has been a stellar career both for him and trinity in 2024.

Kershaw - I think would be a very good addition for the right wing in the championship. His carries would be invaluable but I do also think he would find more opportunities to score. I would be happy to see him on the wing this season or challenging for a spot on the wing. If it’s not to be though then we do have 3 good wing options for 2024.

Jerry has been a world class player in his prime, genuine world class in my opinion. Had opportunities to go to the NRL but due to the situation with his lads who are both very talented footballers (Man City & Man Utd players) couldn’t really take it for obvious reasons.

In style he is a similar player to Kersh or vice versa with the main strength being his strong carry to get our sets off to good starts on the front foot. His experience and positional play are also very good. My concern with him is obviously time is catching up with him very quickly and I’m guessing at best we will need to manage the number of games he plays and his recovery periods, at worst his injury record in recent years is a concern.

If we can keep him fit he will go great guns, and whilst every signing is a risk he’s clearly a higher risk. He’s also unlikely to be with us beyond this year.

I do think Kersh is a lower risk option who we could develop further in the Championship work on a few issues he has and not have a need to recruit should everything go to plan in 2025.

It is all ifs buts and maybes though as it looks like Kersh made his decision early to back himself and I hope it pays off for him.

It’s highly likely we are not in the market for a winger now but would be interesting to see if we were if he would be interested in a return but again all ifs and buts and maybes. As it stands we have a number of young outside backs who could drop in on the wings and also Eckersley and Douglas from the duel reg with Wigan should it been decided they could be needed.

I’m guessing of the potential new signings that are being monitored that wing will not be a high priority.