Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:28 pm  

He might have been a silly boy.

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:32 pm  

Well said pop tart i agree.

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:54 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Leave the Trolls to their do their homework. They'll be in trouble when they go back to school.

For me, it's disappointing that something like this has put the spotlight on the club.
For the player, I'm disappointed he's in this position, but I'd like to wait and see what the results are and what the drug was. It doesn't necessarily make a difference to the verdict, but it does make a difference to how I feel about it.

Right now, Terry Newton is part of the Wakefield Trinity family. He's been accused of something, let's at least support him while the results are not clear.....by not jumping to conclusions.
When the time comes that we do know, then the club and fans will have to decide whether he is worthy of their individual support.
At that point there will still be people accusing or trolling, but the Wakefield family should still bond together in support of the club, whether TN is part of the family or not.

sanity

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:00 pm  

Waketrin Wild wrote:

The injury was sustained at Leeds on Boxing Day 26th December - the test was a month earlier on 24th November.This information should remove any doubt you may have !

No it doesnt

Allegedly he was injured at the end of the 2009 playing season which predates the test and then apparently injured again on Boxing Day.

So IMHO my question still stands.

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:46 pm  

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2010/feb/18/crusaders-gareth-thomas-rugby-league Terry Newton's No. 1 fan Andy Wilson there.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2010/feb/18/crusaders-gareth-thomas-rugby-league Terry Newton's No. 1 fan Andy Wilson there.

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:59 pm  

DoubleAone wrote: Allegedly he was injured at the end of the 2009 playing season which predates the test and then apparently injured again on Boxing Day. So IMHO my question still stands. The season long injury would appear to be the facial injury that occurred near the close of the 2009 campaign,in August,therefore ending his 2009 time at Bradford. Telegraph and Argus Report No doubt more will be revealed in the fullness of time and Terry Newton will discover who his true friends are.(There do seem a lot prepared to kick a man when he is down )

DoubleAone wrote: Allegedly he was injured at the end of the 2009 playing season which predates the test and then apparently injured again on Boxing Day. So IMHO my question still stands. The season long injury would appear to be the facial injury that occurred near the close of the 2009 campaign,in August,therefore ending his 2009 time at Bradford. Telegraph and Argus Report No doubt more will be revealed in the fullness of time and Terry Newton will discover who his true friends are.(There do seem a lot prepared to kick a man when he is down )

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:12 pm  

DoubleAone wrote:

Sorry not relevant IMHO

If a convicted cheat plays in a game or games then his effect on the outcome should at least be considered.

I am not saying what the outcome of any consideration should be only that there must be some review regardless of the clubs involved.

I would qualify this by also saying the conviction MUST be for performance ehancing drugs...recreational use is not a consideration here IMHO.

Why is recreational use in your opinion,not a consideration.The use of recreational drugs could also enhance performance.They are banned substances end of!!The abusers know the potential punishments,whether it be performance enhancing or recreational substances.

Although,i do have some sympathy towards your comments regarding the review of games the player was involved with.Unfortunately though i think this would open the floodgates to appeal after appeal after appeal.

Unregistered player(Hull) - replay match
Leeds v Bradford(Millenium) - total cock up by ref - replay match.

I appreciate these games didnt involve people that were consequently banned for drug use,although Ganson should just be banned anyway!!!!But once the RFL put wheels in motion for replaying games or reviewing results i could see it getting totally out of control.

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:20 pm  

Terry Newton spent about 15 mins on the pitch against Harlequins and about 25 mins against Leeds. In neither of these brief appearances did he do anything spectacular that meant his involvement in the game swayed it Wakefields way.

The UKDA only announced its official findings to the RFL the day after the Leeds match, so how can there be any justification to punish the club, the rest of the players and the fans by dedudcting points. To even suggest it is ludicrous.

I am not entirely sure how the process works so don't know whether the club were informed after his initial test came back positive, but as the UKDA notified the RFL of the decision to suspend him, you would naturally assume that if the club knew of him failing the first test then so did the RFL and the old adage of "innocent until proven guilty" came into play and he was allowed to continue his involvement with the club and play in SL matches with the RFL's blessing.

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:35 pm  

Can anyone explain why a hair sample is not taken when drug testing ? I am aware that Paul Cullen announced on television last night that blood testing catered for a larger number of different drug types than urine testing but from what I understand a hair sample is the best of the lot. Here is some information There is a rumour of a person from another sport avoiding a test because he feared a hair sample may have been taken.

Can anyone explain why a hair sample is not taken when drug testing ? I am aware that Paul Cullen announced on television last night that blood testing catered for a larger number of different drug types than urine testing but from what I understand a hair sample is the best of the lot. Here is some information There is a rumour of a person from another sport avoiding a test because he feared a hair sample may have been taken.

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:40 pm  

Waketrin Wild wrote: Can anyone explain why a hair sample is not taken when drug testing ? I am aware that Paul Cullen announced on television last night that blood testing catered for a larger number of different drug types than urine testing but from what I understand a hair sample is the best of the lot. Here is some information There is a rumour of a person from another sport avoiding a test because he feared a hair sample may have been taken. Because of the ability to shave/remove hair from the body.

Waketrin Wild wrote: Can anyone explain why a hair sample is not taken when drug testing ? I am aware that Paul Cullen announced on television last night that blood testing catered for a larger number of different drug types than urine testing but from what I understand a hair sample is the best of the lot. Here is some information There is a rumour of a person from another sport avoiding a test because he feared a hair sample may have been taken. Because of the ability to shave/remove hair from the body.