Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:10 pm  

snowie wrote:

but you don't give a toss about them you've made that clear

Where have I said I don't give a toss? Is that when I was quoting David Icke....Oh, hang on a minute..

Look Snowie, in this context.
When I was 7 years old my sister, 8, was hit by a car, she died. My parents didn't stop me playing out, ever, Crap happens, we deal with it, just as my parents did. Does that mean they didn't give a toss?
(Yeah go on, I've set myself up there havn't I? cue for a cheap shot)

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:13 pm  

djcool wrote:

I hope it isn't 1% , 1% of our population is 660,000

No, 1% in the high risk group, not 1% of the population of the UK.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:28 am  

Miro wrote:

The death figures in the USA have recently been drasticly revised, as they have in this country. Please provide a link to back up your figure of 3%.
Go on then, nit pick over the 99.7 % figure but bear in mind the words of Chris Whitty speakiing while standing beside Boris at a Downing Street press conference. I have the video too.

"Look.
Most people, well, a significant portion will not get this virus at all at any point in the epidemic which is going on for a long period of time. Of those who do, some will get the virus without even knowing it.

The will have the virus with no symptoms at all....asymptomatic carriage and we know that happens.
Of those who get the symptoms, the great majority, probably 80% will have a mild or moderate disease. Might be bad enough for them to have to go to bed for a few days, not bad enough for them to to have to go to a doctor.
An unfortunate minority will have to go to hospital and the a minority of those will up having to go to severe and critical care and some of those will sadly die.
But that's a minority...it's 1% or possibly even less than 1% and even in the highest risk groups this is significantly less than 20% i.e. even the great majority of people even the very highest groups if they catch this virus will not die."

In a nutshell, this was Chris Whitty telling us, in so many words that the lockdown was entirely unnecessary.

6.8 million confirmed cases and 200000 deaths I will leave the maths to you its all confirmed open source not sure where your figures come from and the deaths are between 40 and 50% of those requiring an ICU again you do the maths to see the impact on health service top end work.

I will give you the confirmed figures for the UK later if you require them.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:22 am  

REDWHITEANDBLUE wrote:

6.8 million confirmed cases and 200000 deaths I will leave the maths to you its all confirmed open source not sure where your figures come from and the deaths are between 40 and 50% of those requiring an ICU again you do the maths to see the impact on health service top end work.

I will give you the confirmed figures for the UK later if you require them.

Your figues are from where? Please give me a link.
The "figures" I quoted come from Christopher John MacRae Whitty CB FRCP FFPH FMedSci Chief Medical Adviser to the UK Government, Chief Scientific Adviser (CSA) at the Department of Health and Social Care and Head of the National Institute for Health Research (NIHR)..
He's your go to man, Will he do?

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:00 am  

Miro wrote: Your figues are from where? Please give me a link. The "figures" I quoted come from Christopher John MacRae Whitty CB FRCP FFPH FMedSci Chief Medical Adviser to the UK Government, Chief Scientific Adviser (CSA) at the Department of Health and Social Care and Head of the National Institute for Health Research (NIHR).. He's your go to man, Will he do? Here's the link to the world positive tests carried out and death rates etc. https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6 You can look at all the countries individually and it is constantly updated with test results and deaths all the trends are there for you to see. This is facts the world death rate is around 3% These are from John Hopkins University world renown will they do?

Miro wrote: Your figues are from where? Please give me a link. The "figures" I quoted come from Christopher John MacRae Whitty CB FRCP FFPH FMedSci Chief Medical Adviser to the UK Government, Chief Scientific Adviser (CSA) at the Department of Health and Social Care and Head of the National Institute for Health Research (NIHR).. He's your go to man, Will he do? Here's the link to the world positive tests carried out and death rates etc. https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6 You can look at all the countries individually and it is constantly updated with test results and deaths all the trends are there for you to see. This is facts the world death rate is around 3% These are from John Hopkins University world renown will they do?

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:10 am  

Miro wrote:

Where have I said I don't give a toss? Is that when I was quoting David Icke....Oh, hang on a minute..

Look Snowie, in this context.
When I was 7 years old my sister, 8, was hit by a car, she died. My parents didn't stop me playing out, ever, Crap happens, we deal with it, just as my parents did. Does that mean they didn't give a toss?
(Yeah go on, I've set myself up there havn't I? cue for a cheap shot)

I never said you was quoting David Icke I said hes one of the cranks out there spreading his misinformation this is a pandemic not an accident, while its tragic you lost your sister I too had encounters that was close to losing my life twice and I wasn't wrapped up in cotton wool either,
In the spate of 9 months there is close to million people in the world lost their lives and that is while counties have tried to control it we would never now how bad it would of been as said by boris had we just let it rip.

We are never going to agree as its clear we have totally different opinions and I doubt either one of us would change them so like I've said before stay safe and do what you want to do the world will catch up at some time

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:28 am  

snowie wrote:

but you don't give a toss about them you've made that clear

Sorry Snowie, but that remark was over the top, and shows just how obsessed with C-19 some people have become about death rates, and I may be giving away my identity with the following.1978, my first wife eight months pregnant with our second son, on her way to anti natal clinic, knocked down on a crossing, by a 17 year in a bakery van, both died the following day. As I’ve said before, thousands die every day including loved ones, but we all have to live a normal life outside this Covid bubble,, otherwise whats the point of living.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:50 am  

Dunkirk Spirit wrote:

Sorry Snowie, but that remark was over the top, and shows just how obsessed with C-19 some people have become about death rates, and I may be giving away my identity with the following.1978, my first wife eight months pregnant with our second son, on her way to anti natal clinic, knocked down on a crossing, by a 17 year in a bakery van, both died the following day. As I’ve said before, thousands die every day including loved ones, but we all have to live a normal life outside this Covid bubble,, otherwise whats the point of living.

Massive respect for sharing that on here and not that'll mean much from me so many years on but I'm sorry you had to go through any of that.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:13 am  

snowie wrote:

I never said you was quoting David Icke I said hes one of the cranks out there spreading his misinformation this is a pandemic not an accident, while its tragic you lost your sister I too had encounters that was close to losing my life twice and I wasn't wrapped up in cotton wool either,
In the spate of 9 months there is close to million people in the world lost their lives and that is while counties have tried to control it we would never now how bad it would of been as said by boris had we just let it rip.

We are never going to agree as its clear we have totally different opinions and I doubt either one of us would change them so like I've said before stay safe and do what you want to do the world will catch up at some time

Ok, you typed this "David Icke for instance gets his crap on the internet you read it and your bought,"
Well, that kind of infers I quote Mr Icke but your right, you didn't directly say I quote David Icke but rather indirectly.

I must look this Icke fella up. Make my own mid up about him.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:26 am  

REDWHITEANDBLUE wrote: Here's the link to the world positive tests carried out and death rates etc. https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6 You can look at all the countries individually and it is constantly updated with test results and deaths all the trends are there for you to see. This is facts the world death rate is around 3% These are from John Hopkins University world renown will they do? You mean the John Hopkins University funded by The Bill and Melissa Gates foundation ? The same Bill Gates who is set to make a fortune from his c-19 vaccines ? The same Bill Gates behind agenda 201 ? Even the BBC Tell you what, get some figures from an organization NOT funded by Billy Gates. I tell you now, you'll find that quite difficult. Sue Desmond-Hellmann Johns Hopkins University Baltimore, MD quote from her speech "It’s also great to be here as CEO of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation." You know what they say "follow the money" https://www.gatesfoundation.org/Media-C ... University So RW&B nice sidestep, but what of this guys claims as quoted. Christopher John MacRae Whitty CB FRCP FFPH FMedSci Chief Medical Adviser to the UK Government, Chief Scientific Adviser (CSA) at the Department of Health and Social Care and Head of the National Institute for Health Research (NIHR)..

REDWHITEANDBLUE wrote: Here's the link to the world positive tests carried out and death rates etc. https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6 You can look at all the countries individually and it is constantly updated with test results and deaths all the trends are there for you to see. This is facts the world death rate is around 3% These are from John Hopkins University world renown will they do? You mean the John Hopkins University funded by The Bill and Melissa Gates foundation ? The same Bill Gates who is set to make a fortune from his c-19 vaccines ? The same Bill Gates behind agenda 201 ? Even the BBC Tell you what, get some figures from an organization NOT funded by Billy Gates. I tell you now, you'll find that quite difficult. Sue Desmond-Hellmann Johns Hopkins University Baltimore, MD quote from her speech "It’s also great to be here as CEO of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation." You know what they say "follow the money" https://www.gatesfoundation.org/Media-C ... University So RW&B nice sidestep, but what of this guys claims as quoted. Christopher John MacRae Whitty CB FRCP FFPH FMedSci Chief Medical Adviser to the UK Government, Chief Scientific Adviser (CSA) at the Department of Health and Social Care and Head of the National Institute for Health Research (NIHR)..