Re: Whats happening with Rocky : Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:00 pm  

PopTart wrote:

The only player leaving that has affected the team is Westerman in my opinion.

The others have either been outside the starting 17 or reached an age where they want to step back.

MC has stated he is still looking for a middle and a centre. I really can't see the need for all the drama.
It's 4 months before we lace up a boot in anger.

PT it is the panic month, it's the same every year but now Hampshire has been thrown into the mix it's a feeding frenzy and not just the normal culprits.

Hampshire will join the ranks of the martyrs regardless of whatever the truth is. All WP did and the accolades given on here are now all forgotten, ditto MC who is rapidly becoming a pantomime villain. It's how some people think, it's what they want and your obvious logic plays no part in that.

Not one minute of one game played in the new season and the knives are already out and the white flag is raised. Yet we expect 17 young men to go out and perform with such accolades ringing in their ears, how tragic can we get on here?

Re: Whats happening with Rocky : Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:05 pm  

We are in the entertainment business at the time of an increase in the cost of living. It is therefore necessary to give supporters a reason to spend over £250 of their diminishing incomes. The club charges premium prices for replica shirts, they even charge to go into the bar let alone the cost of the drinks.
I regret at this time you can only expect a supporter to invest so much especially after the last two seasons. The club need to generate positivity and hope for better next season but all we get is how much the loss of the Sky money is and how we must run with a smaller and what appears less quality in our squad. We can compare to Salford because their average attendances are probably lower than ours and what revenue do they generate from the ground but yet they have without doubt recruited much more quality than us. I wonder how their sales of season tickets are going.
With regards one more poor season unfortunately we do not have that luxury because I believe Toulouse will be a much bigger threat than Leigh were. We may end up with two new stands but what good are they in the Championship which could be the most competitive division in rugby league next season. The last time how long did it take us to get back into the top flight.

Re: Whats happening with Rocky : Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:07 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

It’s not just Hampshire is it, we have allowed 10 others to go from last years first team squad. The problem is that Hampshire was usually one of our better performers but the club do not think he worth what he wants or he is not willing to accept what they offer. If it is the latter he won’t have any trouble finding another club.
I suppose you do realise that supporters other than those on the forum buy season tickets. It is the club’s responsibility to put a squad together that encourages season ticket sales. I guess they rely on support without question which may apply to some but not all. I would suggest that you do not belittle those that have doubts. We should remember that we have endured two seasons of mediocrity bordering on pathetic and currently our plan is to go into the next with a worse squad and this was the same people whose judgment was to give Chester an extended contract.
I have said elsewhere we shall see either the club’s strategy proves to be correct or we face another season of uncertainty.

The fact of the matter is that we have lost 6 senior guys who managed to play 5 or more games last season and signed 5 with possibly more to come.

I wouldn’t worry though. You haven’t got much longer to suffer

Re: Whats happening with Rocky : Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:13 pm  

JINJER wrote:

Because IMHO there won’t be any more incomings, it will be throwing good money down the drain, we might well get the old “we’ll run with what we’ve got and if anyone becomes available we’ll have a look” gag just to appease people. We seem to be letting players leave to make up the shortfall of the SKY £260K, all the clubs are down by the same amount, some can afford it, others are speculating to accumulate, my prediction is a very long, hard soul destroying season coming up.

At least we had a change of coach, which will hopefully see a significantly better attitude among the players that we do have.

Unfortunately, Trinity dont have the funds to speculate, as some other clubs do and we dont have the luxury of being in a position to run up huge debts.

We end up back in the situation of it being better to have a club to support than one in administration.

At least the guys running the club will ensure that we dont go bust and EVERY club in SL will be affected by the reduced Sky monies, with plenty already racking up serious debts.

I know that its a classic catch 22 about winning and attracting fans stc but, if we speculate and fail, we'd be right in the brown stuff.

Lets see what the final squad looks like and hope that when we pick up some injuries', there will be some youngsters chomping at the bit, to show what they can do.

Re: Whats happening with Rocky : Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:15 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

We are in the entertainment business at the time of an increase in the cost of living. It is therefore necessary to give supporters a reason to spend over £250 of their diminishing incomes. The club charges premium prices for replica shirts, they even charge to go into the bar let alone the cost of the drinks.
I regret at this time you can only expect a supporter to invest so much especially after the last two seasons. The club need to generate positivity and hope for better next season but all we get is how much the loss of the Sky money is and how we must run with a smaller and what appears less quality in our squad. We can compare to Salford because their average attendances are probably lower than ours and what revenue do they generate from the ground but yet they have without doubt recruited much more quality than us. I wonder how their sales of season tickets are going.
With regards one more poor season unfortunately we do not have that luxury because I believe Toulouse will be a much bigger threat than Leigh were. We may end up with two new stands but what good are they in the Championship which could be the most competitive division in rugby league next season. The last time how long did it take us to get back into the top flight.

It's a choice to invest or not it's a choice to go or not. I do both regardless as I have for many years

Re: Whats happening with Rocky : Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:39 pm  

Jose wrote:

The fact of the matter is that we have lost 6 senior guys who managed to play 5 or more games last season and signed 5 with possibly more to come.

I wouldn’t worry though. You haven’t got much longer to suffer

Don't like the sound of that.

You're either putting out a hit on Scarlett when he's not worth it,

Or someone about to call it a day and I wouldn't blame them and if the club goes down the crapper then those on here will have had their dreams come true.

One slightly above average player won't sign a contract and it's the end of the world, why bother.

Re: Whats happening with Rocky : Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:48 pm  

I would have liked to see Hampshire stay as he offers great versatility and his pace off the mark is a big asset. However, we have lost better players and we’ve learned to cope.

Hampshire is a fans favourite but I do hope some Wakey fans don’t resort to wanting Jowitt/Gaskill to fail. I’ve already seen some posts on social media that have trashed both players. I really don’t like to see fans publicly trash one player just to reinforce their argument on another player. I know some fans think Hampshire is better than the two mentioned players and that’s fair enough but why it has to get personal I’ll never know.

I also hope that some of our fans give some of the other local Wakey lads a bit more support! We have 3/4 other players who are one of our own and it would be nice to hear fans get behind them a bit more.

I wish the best for Hampshire. He’s been a good servant and given 100% in every game he’s played!

Re: Whats happening with Rocky : Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:50 pm  

Jesper_Parnevik wrote:

I would have liked to see Hampshire stay as he offers great versatility and his pace off the mark is a big asset. However, we have lost better players and we’ve learned to cope.

Hampshire is a fans favourite but I do hope some Wakey fans don’t resort to wanting Jowitt/Gaskill to fail. I’ve already seen some posts on social media that have trashed both players. I really don’t like to see fans publicly trash one player just to reinforce their argument on another player. I know some fans think Hampshire is better than the two mentioned players and that’s fair enough but why it has to get personal I’ll never know.

I also hope that some of our fans give some of the other local Wakey lads a bit more support! We have 3/4 other players who are one of our own and it would be nice to hear fans get behind them a bit more.

I wish the best for Hampshire. He’s been a good servant and given 100% in every game he’s played!

Re: Whats happening with Rocky : Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:46 pm  

Shame that he's gone. He's a very useful utility player and great to have as an option. Unfortunately, he is yet to be seen by any Super League coach that has coached him that he is first choice scrum-half, full back or stand-off. Nothing wrong with that, but utility players don't get first-choice salaries and perhaps he thought he deserved that price tag. Hence, the two parties never will meet.

His utility value is what we will miss, which is a shame.

As for Gaskell, on his game he is a good stand-off and I think he'll be an asset and is a good signing. A steadier player with a good read of the game.

Re: Whats happening with Rocky : Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:04 pm  

vastman wrote:

Don't like the sound of that.

You're either putting out a hit on Scarlett when he's not worth it,

Or someone about to call it a day and I wouldn't blame them and if the club goes down the crapper then those on here will have had their dreams come true.

One slightly above average player won't sign a contract and it's the end of the world, why bother.

I doubt my opinion would make Jose leave unless they are just looking for an excuse to get out. There are enough of you on here backing him so why should he have a problem with criticism from one supporter. He could put me on ignore because whatever happens be it successful or unsuccessful can only be attributed to those in charge. I will make it easy for him by removing myself from this part of the forum but I will remain on the section that allows me and others to point out how bad the government and especially the PM is for the country.