Re: junior rugby 2014 : Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:55 pm  

Sorry forgot , well done Seth good to see another YJL team progress. I hope you can pull off a shock . I know you will do Oulton proud.

Re: junior rugby 2014 : Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:01 pm  

muttley cat wrote:

Sorry forgot , well done Seth good to see another YJL team progress. I hope you can pull off a shock . I know you will do Oulton proud.

Cheers muttley appreciate that. With the team east Leeds have built and recruited they may well be a step too far for us. Couldn't be more proud though reaching the last 8 of the Yorkshire cup and now national cup, we've a great squad though we're probably a couple of players short at the moment to kick on even further.

Re: junior rugby 2014 : Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:54 pm  

We (Oulton Under 8's) started the season well against a very young Swillington side - many of them playing a year up, it was a bit of a mis-match really although they didn't give up. Much better playing under this season rules when errors result in a turnover - will be interesting how some of the teams who threw the ball absolutely anywhere cope with these, although we do have a couple of boys who run straight into touch - and as a team we have a tendency to try and run round the defense rather than through it.

Our timing was still well off, we tried and put a couple of dummy runners in towards the end of last year but the lads lines' and timing were wrong - but improved at training last night so fingers crossed they keep improving.

Does anybody else have any suggestions for teaching them to keep them away from the edges? Had a game in training last night, taking off players who ran straight for touch and this seemed to work but come Sunday I think we could have the same problem again.

This week we have East Leeds away, so no idea what to expect as we didn't play them last season.

Re: junior rugby 2014 : Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:06 pm  

Musky wrote:

We (Oulton Under 8's) started the season well against a very young Swillington side - many of them playing a year up, it was a bit of a mis-match really although they didn't give up. Much better playing under this season rules when errors result in a turnover - will be interesting how some of the teams who threw the ball absolutely anywhere cope with these, although we do have a couple of boys who run straight into touch - and as a team we have a tendency to try and run round the defense rather than through it.

Our timing was still well off, we tried and put a couple of dummy runners in towards the end of last year but the lads lines' and timing were wrong - but improved at training last night so fingers crossed they keep improving.

Does anybody else have any suggestions for teaching them to keep them away from the edges? Had a game in training last night, taking off players who ran straight for touch and this seemed to work but come Sunday I think we could have the same problem again.

This week we have East Leeds away, so no idea what to expect as we didn't play them last season.

I wouldn't even entertain working on dummy runners in training or in matches as it confuses the hell out of them and takes their concentration away from what mini/mod rugby should be about which is doing the basics well. Through games I teach play the ball, start points at first receiver, dummy half pass, moving on to the ball and later introduce a simple plus 1 (short pass). That combined with speed, agility, balance along with catch, grip, carry and tackling is as far as it should go.

As for going into touch all you can do is reinforce that its ok to get tackled and not to score on every play as its a learning process that they will eventually get. You could also use a conditioned game where by the attacking team have unlimited tackles until they make an error/go in to touch, which is more of a positive message about what youre looking for than taking the players off the pitch. Failing that its an electric fence around the pitch!

Re: junior rugby 2014 : Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:34 pm  

Musky wrote:

We (Oulton Under 8's) started the season well against a very young Swillington side - many of them playing a year up, it was a bit of a mis-match really although they didn't give up. Much better playing under this season rules when errors result in a turnover - will be interesting how some of the teams who threw the ball absolutely anywhere cope with these, although we do have a couple of boys who run straight into touch - and as a team we have a tendency to try and run round the defense rather than through it.

Our timing was still well off, we tried and put a couple of dummy runners in towards the end of last year but the lads lines' and timing were wrong - but improved at training last night so fingers crossed they keep improving.

Does anybody else have any suggestions for teaching them to keep them away from the edges? Had a game in training last night, taking off players who ran straight for touch and this seemed to work but come Sunday I think we could have the same problem again.

This week we have East Leeds away, so no idea what to expect as we didn't play them last season.

Do what I do with my 9's and put barbed wire down either side of the field!!

I am introducing dummy running and miss balls in training some of the kids are really taking to it, some struggle.

I am also bringing in first man plays as they all now have the basic ability to catch, pass, drop off etc although we do not use them in a match until I say, usually 3 or 4 minutes before full time when it is not going to have too detrimental an effect on the result should it all go wrong.

Re: junior rugby 2014 : Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:23 pm  

Seth wrote:

I wouldn't even entertain working on dummy runners in training or in matches as it confuses the hell out of them and takes their concentration away from what mini/mod rugby should be about which is doing the basics well. Through games I teach play the ball, start points at first receiver, dummy half pass, moving on to the ball and later introduce a simple plus 1 (short pass). That combined with speed, agility, balance along with catch, grip, carry and tackling is as far as it should go.

As for going into touch all you can do is reinforce that its ok to get tackled and not to score on every play as its a learning process that they will eventually get. You could also use a conditioned game where by the attacking team have unlimited tackles until they make an error/go in to touch, which is more of a positive message about what youre looking for than taking the players off the pitch. Failing that its an electric fence around the pitch!

Thanks, to be fair the majority of the lads have taken really well to the dummy runners in training, and in the Rhino's indoor league - we stick to a dummy runner from the half back, simple calls nothing flash - taking the pressure off the runner and giving him more time to pick his gap. I don't think they are confused with it, just making them realise as you say that there is more to the game than scoring. They just seemed to have their timing off on Sunday, but on Saturday (and also last night) it was bang on! Clearly not all the boys can do it, and some of them we stick to the basics of running off the half back.

You're not the team who keep trying to encroach on our session by pinching land on a Monday night are you?

Re: junior rugby 2014 : Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:38 pm  

Musky wrote:

Thanks, to be fair the majority of the lads have taken really well to the dummy runners in training, and in the Rhino's indoor league - we stick to a dummy runner from the half back, simple calls nothing flash - taking the pressure off the runner and giving him more time to pick his gap. I don't think they are confused with it, just making them realise as you say that there is more to the game than scoring. They just seemed to have their timing off on Sunday, but on Saturday (and also last night) it was bang on! Clearly not all the boys can do it, and some of them we stick to the basics of running off the half back.

You're not the team who keep trying to encroach on our session by pinching land on a Monday night are you?

Ha no, we're U14s and train on a Tues and Thurs.

Re: junior rugby 2014 : Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:38 pm  

jonh wrote:

Do what I do with my 9's and put barbed wire down either side of the field!!

I am introducing dummy running and miss balls in training some of the kids are really taking to it, some struggle.

I am also bringing in first man plays as they all now have the basic ability to catch, pass, drop off etc although we do not use them in a match until I say, usually 3 or 4 minutes before full time when it is not going to have too detrimental an effect on the result should it all go wrong.

should results really matter at that age?

Re: junior rugby 2014 : Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:08 pm  

Imho results dont really matter that much in the 9s indeed you should tread carefully with score lines and naming especially large scores . This is ehy there is no real record kept.

However enthusiasm is something that you will never take away from dads etc and without trying to be condescending to my Wigan supporting ex forum sparing partner he eill realise the error of his ways when they are playing real rugby aged 12

Re: junior rugby 2014 : Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:43 pm  

muttley cat wrote:

It certainly seems that the power as certainly moved from East to West in the Humber Area.

A fantastic team display from the hull lads throughout and certainly highlighted Criggs weaknesses. The best team bar none I have ever seen my son play against. And the parents spectators and club officials coaches etc did the game proud.

Whether or not 40-0 wad a true reflection it was certainly the finsl score and some of Criggs biggest gunns were kept out.

2 weeks Crigg are back at Hull in the league, I know of around 6 lads who are chomping at the bit already.

Honestly folks I have never seen a group of talented teams like this before and if you are at a loss as to what to do on a sunday mid morning get yourself fown to a local team in this league and put a few quid behind the bars.

In years to come these are the future.

I understand East Hull beat West Hull in their own backyard 8-12.
Well done to both sets and all the boys playing to such high standard.