rubber duckie wrote:
Good grief....
I'll say it again...as I am wholly aware..YOU CANNOT REDUCE CAP BY MOVING A PLAYER OUT ON LOAN!
The cap still counts whether Grix moved, played or didn't...
As for de-registering I think it would only free up a quota spot not reduce cap either.
Grix was allowed to go (yes injured) for the same kind of reasons Crosby has...to hopefully find himself a new job as he is about to become redundant!!! Which he did and went on to be a fantastic signing for you.
Kind of like any good employer that would allow you to leave work to go for interviews whilst serving notice.
Sandow came to our club and his payment for half a dozen substandard games was differed until the season after...a loophole Wigan first exercised when they paid something like £450k?? for Fieldon and sent a cheated certain team around here down!!
Take the Wakey specs off and smell the custard. Wire are not your enemy...as for Wigan they cheated you good and proper.
a) a loaned player for the purposes of the cap is treated in exactly the same way a fully transfered player was, whereby the full cap value of said player is removed from the loaning clubs cap, and entirely onto the loanee clubs cap. A club at full cap cannot loan further players whom would normally be in the top 25 earners of the club. So capitalise it all you want, but yes, you can lower your cap costs by loaning players out. As I understand it, it’s actually most common for teams to do it if they have a big re-signing bonus to pay as that counts in year (so to continue your example, if you had agreed to re-sign Kevin Brown for 2019 with a signing on bonus of say 20k, that cap space has to be freed up on the 2018 cap ... by loaning out Dom Crosby). I’m sure I’ve explained these rules to you before.
b) Unlike the NRL, the SL rules are altogether ... fuzzier around deferred payments, backended contracts etc (unless the clubs get more information about it that’s not publicly available?) one of the first lines of the Salary Cap (for legal reasons) is that the cap value of a player in any given year is not related to WHAT they were paid or WHEN they were paid. It’s the latter capitalisation we are interested in when it comes to deferred payments, and implies it’s entirely at the RFLs discretion on whether a payment that is deferred into the next cap year actually lives there. This was, as you say brought into place following the “spirit of the cap” discussions. However that’s not to say that the flexibility isn’t good sometimes, like the RFL allowing Warrington to utilise the returning player rule for Charnley, even though he didn’t fit the 5 years out of the game criteria it normally requires.
c) are you confusing Simon Grix and Scott Grix?
d) I can only assume you don’t know who DaddyCool is...
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