Re: Rocky - Stick or twist : Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:05 pm  

It's been announced that Drinkwater is leaving Catalans. Wonder where he'll end up?

Re: Rocky - Stick or twist : Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:20 pm  

Disappointing if Hampshire/Hampshire's agent is pricing him/them out of a deal. As for Reynolds, as a back up option I'm still not sure about, never mind as first choice partner for Miller.

Re: Rocky - Stick or twist : Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:31 pm  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

It's been announced that Drinkwater is leaving Catalans. Wonder where he'll end up?

If the rumours have been right, Leeds.

Re: Rocky - Stick or twist : Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:19 pm  

chissitt wrote:

Maybe it's because he's watched the kid quite a lot over the years while watching plenty of junior rugby which I'm sure your aware of, it doesn't make him right or wrong on the matter, as it does not make you right because your opinion differs to his, he's clearly got a different opinion to you on him as simple as that, is doesn't make either of you wrong.

Get off your soap box and stop being so righteous - I know Belly and I know he posts over the top on purpose to get a bite and I like to bite.

Re: Rocky - Stick or twist : Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:19 pm  

chissitt wrote:

Maybe it's because he's watched the kid quite a lot over the years while watching plenty of junior rugby which I'm sure your aware of, it doesn't make him right or wrong on the matter, as it does not make you right because your opinion differs to his, he's clearly got a different opinion to you on him as simple as that, is doesn't make either of you wrong.

Get off your soap box and stop being so righteous - I know Belly and I know he posts over the top on purpose to get a bite and I like to bite.

Re: Rocky - Stick or twist : Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:42 pm  

PopTart wrote:

We still need a squad though.
I get the offloading thing but you can't reduce your squad size.
That is a big risk for a super league team. Injuries always happen and you need decent cover.
So offloading doesn't give us the money for a single fee unless you reduce quality.

Or recruit astutely

Re: Rocky - Stick or twist : Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:44 pm  

vastman wrote:

Get off your soap box and stop being so righteous - I know Belly and I know he posts over the top on purpose to get a bite and I like to bite.

Well you've certainly bit here, twice in fact

Re: Rocky - Stick or twist : Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:10 pm  

bren2k wrote:

The last sentence is correct - the rest is hyperbole or patently untrue; [color=#FF0000]Gale is by far the best 7 in SL[/color], with Powell and Richardson probably close seconds. Now admittedly, they're generally showcased by having a better team around them, but Hampshire, purely by virtue of being nomadic and not having had a chance to nail a starting 7 spot for a full season, can in no way be described as being better than any of those three.

I don't disagree that he has the potential to be outstanding, but it's exactly this kind of talk that has young players and their agents prepared to make inflated and unreasonable wage demands, before they can justify it.

I like Hampshire - he'll probably have a long and successful career and could easily play for England at some point in the future; but now is not the future.

I know I'm looking through black and amber specs but I'd put Jake Trueman right up there as well and I've seen a lot of him this season. He's the main reason we're in 3rd despite being without Gale for most of the season. Future international and it will be a struggle to keep him unless we can consistently win silverware. Should be an interesting match up on Friday and I'm looking forward to it.

Re: Rocky - Stick or twist : Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:19 pm  

I think the club looking for a new 7 is the way - is that all we need to take the extra step?

but who is available - good and in our price range????????

is Hampshire the best and we just re sign him

Re: Rocky - Stick or twist : Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:59 am  

chissitt wrote:

Well you've certainly bit here, twice in fact

If it's any consolation I think Ryan is a tremendous prospect who for whatever reason hasn't progressed as quick as some. That said Belly's description of him is way OTT as are most of his comments, he's a wind up merchant on here to a degree, I know this because when I chat to him in person his views are far more reasoned.

I totally understand the issues from both sides. However MC has a responsibility to 28 players not just one and considering how many of our best players have been secured recently it's not hard to see why there is no money.

He's probably been offered less than he's worth because of this and I have no doubt that some players at the club who aren't as good are on better deals, but that's how it goes. We are a team not a collection of stars and to do what 'Get them onside' suggests and get rid of said players would simply destroy that ethos overnight and MC and CC know that. It's bad luck for Ryan but he chose Wigan and as such we owe him no special loyalty in a way we do owe Crowther or Jowitt. How would they and all the other young Academy players feel if that happened? Also not forgetting that these are people with families and rights which GTO seems to forget. Ruin all that on still speculative theory that this lad is the second comimg.

I suspect you agree with most of what I say.

There is as we all know only one other answer and that's for people like Belly or more to the point the sort of people he knows to cough up. If say another 10k could do the deal then if 10 people for example contributed 1k a year for say three years to his wage then hey job done. 1k a year is a lot to you and me but for some it's just one less option on their new BMW and I reckon we have 10 people in Wakefield who could do that easily if they were persuaded well enough.

I know it's messy and not ideal but clearly MC won't put in any more and why should he, nor can the club aford it. Sometimes supporters have to be just that and support the club, rather than just being fans. If I could afford to give the club 1k a year I would but I can't. I just hope that somewhere out there, there may be people who will as I'd love Ryan to stay at the club and actually get on with his career and stop chasing the money so to speak.