Re: Peter box : Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:36 am  

PopTart wrote:

It seems to me that as you both have expertise and interest in a subject we all want to know about it would be better swapping ideas rather than scoring points.
You could both be valuable if the changes ever happen
Just my opinion though.

Who gave you permission to have an opinion PT????

Re: Peter box : Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:47 am  

All this talk of tidying up and make do and mend, whilst interesting, is letting YC and WMDC off the hook massively! If I recall correctly, the SoS ordered that in return for a massive chunk of land being taken out of green belt, that YCP were to provide a fit for purpose modern stadium for community use, with WT as the anchor tenant - when did that get downgraded to a group of volunteers installing second hand steel and a lick of paint?

If we get anything less than what was promised, we've been had - and anyone who accepts that is complicit in the chicanery of YCP, WMDC and SRW.

Re: Peter box : Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:57 am  

Agree no tidy full mashing is required if not our pants have pulled down by yc and wmdc

Re: Peter box : Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:20 am  

bren2k wrote:

All this talk of tidying up and make do and mend, whilst interesting, is letting YC and WMDC off the hook massively! If I recall correctly, the SoS ordered that in return for a massive chunk of land being taken out of green belt, that YCP were to provide a fit for purpose modern stadium for community use, with WT as the anchor tenant - when did that get downgraded to a group of volunteers installing second hand steel and a lick of paint?

If we get anything less than what was promised, we've been had - and anyone who accepts that is complicit in the chicanery of YCP, WMDC and SRW.

Can't argue with that.

Re: Peter box : Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:22 am  

bren2k wrote:

All this talk of tidying up and make do and mend, whilst interesting, is letting YC and WMDC off the hook massively! If I recall correctly, the SoS ordered that in return for a massive chunk of land being taken out of green belt, that YCP were to provide a fit for purpose modern stadium for community use, with WT as the anchor tenant - when did that get downgraded to a group of volunteers installing second hand steel and a lick of paint?

If we get anything less than what was promised, we've been had - and anyone who accepts that is complicit in the chicanery of YCP, WMDC and SRW.

That's the long game. YC clearly don't have any intention of funding a stadium so waiting for them to do so is futile. The council either don't think they can enforce them or, I suspect, don't particularly want to for fear of what will come out. To have a complete about turn from Box from a stance of a new stadium is nothing to do with them to a potential loan (should that scenario come to pass) is quite frankly astounding. Clearly someone doesn't want any awkward questions being asked.

If nothing else if the community/training facilities minus the new stadium are constructed up at NM with a fit for purpose refurb at BV then it's not a bad outcome from this mess.

Re: Peter box : Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:04 am  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

If nothing else if the community/training facilities minus the new stadium are constructed up at NM with a fit for purpose refurb at BV then it's not a bad outcome from this mess.

I take the point - but it kind of is a bad outcome, because it's not what was promised, or mandated by the SoS.

Re: Peter box : Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:27 am  

bren2k wrote:

All this talk of tidying up and make do and mend, whilst interesting, is letting YC and WMDC off the hook massively! If I recall correctly, the SoS ordered that in return for a massive chunk of land being taken out of green belt, that YCP were to provide a fit for purpose modern stadium for community use, with WT as the anchor tenant - when did that get downgraded to a group of volunteers installing second hand steel and a lick of paint?

If we get anything less than what was promised, we've been had - and anyone who accepts that is complicit in the chicanery of YCP, WMDC and SRW.

Excellent point Bren and if the world was anything like "fair", there should be a community stadium at Newmarket.
Unfortunately, it just doesn't appear that this is likely to happen anytime soon and time is not "our" friend.

It's an utter disgrace that Yorkcourt, aided and abetted by WMDC, seem to be off the hook but maybe, we have to get what we can for now and hope to deal with Yorkcourt and WMDC at a later date ??

Re: Peter box : Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:34 am  

bren2k wrote:

I take the point - but it kind of is a bad outcome, because it's not what was promised, or mandated by the SoS.

Ideal world bren, sadly we're not in one and the dodgy developer knows full well they can't be made to deliver anything they don't want to. Making the best of a bad situation by playing the legal card on the LA has got us to this point. We'll be waiting forever if we are holding our hopes on YC fronting up.

Re: Peter box : Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:39 am  

bren2k wrote:

I take the point - but it kind of is a bad outcome, because it's not what was promised, or mandated by the SoS.

Seems to me that the SoS is a toothless tiger! What a waste of time and public money calling the scheme in was.

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