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Re: Chester must go now : Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:42 pm  

alegend wrote:

In that team Fifth was the fastest forward we had ..Played on the wing against Leeds and scored 2 or 4 trys to win the game Vines could shift 2 ..That team bet the Ozz touring team crowd was around 18000 which was disappointing as said happy day's

They were big hard men but I'll bet some of our backs are heavier than they were at the time. Modern training and diet.

Re: Chester must go now : Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:48 pm  

Players of a different era, not saying they weren't "hard" i.e. dirty, but they would have long bans in the modern era with cameras recording late shots and would have to adapt their style. I remember Chris Burton being described as having an awkward tackling style!

Re: Chester must go now : Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:16 pm  

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Briggs was definitely a second row.

Pops theres an old pic that pops up regularly on wakey history pages and it clearly shows Briggs about to pack down in the front row. It may have been a one off but none of them would have fitted in with the modern game as the shirts don't have collars for them to turn up to make them look hard.

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Re: Chester must go now : Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:57 am  

newgroundb4wakey wrote:

Pops theres an old pic that pops up regularly on wakey history pages and it clearly shows Briggs about to pack down in the front row. It may have been a one off but none of them would have fitted in with the modern game as the shirts don't have collars for them to turn up to make them look hard.

I'm sure there must have been a time when he had to fill in but predominantly he was a second row.
He played at Wembley in second row and when he played for Yorkshire and England too.

Don Vines did switch between positions and anyone who met Briggsy in his pub at the top of Stanley Hill will know he was a big bloke but he was a runner in his day and a fit bloke.

Re: Chester must go now : Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:55 am  

Brian Briggs played in the second row in his time at St Helens, as far as I remember he played in the second row for Yorkshire and GB while at saints and not at Wakefield, he used to wear the number 10 shirt at Wakey which was the blind side prop with Jack Wilkinson at tother side at open side prop with Geoff Oakes and then Jan Kosonovic sandwiched in between, next time the ground is open to spectators ask Nelly Fox or Ian Brooke, I'm sure they'll be able to shed some light on the matter, when Briggsy first signed for the club he lived on Irwin Crescent Eastmoor with his parents.

Re: Chester must go now : Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:01 am  

Brian Briggs played second row at Wakefield number 11 if you watch the video of the 62cup final you can plainly see Brian in the 11 Jersey.

Re: Chester must go now : Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:08 am  

The pack in the final was
8 Wilkinson
9 Oakes
10 Firth
11 Briggs
12 Williamson
13 Turner

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Re: Chester must go now : Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:18 am  

https://www.britishpathe.com/video/wake ... ld+Win+Cup I know we've drifted off topic a bit but its always good to see these guys play.

https://www.britishpathe.com/video/wake ... ld+Win+Cup I know we've drifted off topic a bit but its always good to see these guys play.

Re: Chester must go now : Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:34 pm  

If we are off topic and you want to see some greats of Wakefield try pathe news . For example Wakefield Wigan at Wembley https://www.britishpathe.com/video/rugb ... cup+finals

If we are off topic and you want to see some greats of Wakefield try pathe news . For example Wakefield Wigan at Wembley https://www.britishpathe.com/video/rugb ... cup+finals

Re: Chester must go now : Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:54 pm  

little wayne69 wrote:

Brian Briggs played in the second row in his time at St Helens, as far as I remember he played in the second row for Yorkshire and GB while at saints and not at Wakefield, he used to wear the number 10 shirt at Wakey which was the blind side prop with Jack Wilkinson at tother side at open side prop with Geoff Oakes and then Jan Kosonovic sandwiched in between, next time the ground is open to spectators ask Nelly Fox or Ian Brooke, I'm sure they'll be able to shed some light on the matter, when Briggsy first signed for the club he lived on Irwin Crescent Eastmoor with his parents.

Wayne - Briggs was definitely second row! He had a reputation for his tackling.
The best pack of that era I remember was Wilkinson, Kosanovic (Milan not Jan - that was Prinsloo!) Firth, Vines, Briggs and Turner..
Kosanovic was a great hooker and he had Geoff Oakes as back up.