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The Phantom Horseman wrote:
Just to expand the subject of scoring categories.
Aaron Bower has written an article about the catchment area process and scoring - it's at thirteenrugby.com but behind a paywall.

He explains that the catchment area population for each club is reached by dividing the Local Authority District population for each club and dividing it by the number of SL/Championship clubs in that area.

So the Office for National Satistics figure for the Wakefield area according to Bower is 353,300 which, dividing by 3, means Wakefield, Castleford and Featherstone will all have a "population score" of 117,767.

Bradford meanwhile have an ONS figure of 546,400 and as they share the District with Keighley that has to be divided by 2, meaning Bradford (and Keighley) have a "population score" of 273,200.

Now to the interesting bit. Every club will score either 1.5 points, 1 point or 0.5 points for this sector.
And the threshold to score 1.5 points has been set at 260,000, with the threshold for 1 point set at 130,000. So Bradford will edge into the maximum 1.5 points, and Wakefield, Cas and Fev get the minimum 0.5 points.

Putting my tin helmet on here, but I'd be very interested to know how they reached those seemingly-arbitrary figures of 260,000 and 130,000. Why not 300,000 and 150,000, or 200,000 and 100,000? I hope the management at Wakefield, Castleford and Featherstone are talking to each other about this.


Have to say one whole point lost for that potentially (and something not in the clubs control to change) is quite a penalty if it proves to be that the clubs will be weighted against each other.

If they are judged against other clubs might be unfair on some level. If it’s against criteria then it’s a bit harsh too on something that can’t be influenced by clubs but means they could have to score higher in other areas to make up an A license. Again probably not fair either. Perhaps the points allocated for this section should be significantly less.
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JM explained this.
It isn't divided into 3. We get the Wakefield part and they get the area identified as Cas and Fev. So we have the major share.
We should have full points in this.
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From the document

https://www.rugby-league.com/uploads/do ... %20Version).pdf

it looks fairly clear?


• Catchment Area is defined as the population of the Local
Authority District where the club’s stadium is located
divided by the total number of Tier 1 and Tier 2 clubs
in the same area.
• The population data is based on the latest census (2021)
and ONS Boundaries for Local Authority Districts.

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1. Find club stadium postcode and what Local
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2. Download this file from the ONS website
Population and household estimates, England and
Wales: Census 2021 - Office for National Statistics
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3. Find Local Authority Population
From the document

https://www.rugby-league.com/uploads/do ... %20Version).pdf

it looks fairly clear?


• Catchment Area is defined as the population of the Local
Authority District where the club’s stadium is located
divided by the total number of Tier 1 and Tier 2 clubs
in the same area.
• The population data is based on the latest census (2021)
and ONS Boundaries for Local Authority Districts.

METHODOLOGY
Catchment Data:
1. Find club stadium postcode and what Local
Authority Area it is in
2. Download this file from the ONS website
Population and household estimates, England and
Wales: Census 2021 - Office for National Statistics
(ons.gov.uk)
3. Find Local Authority Population
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PopTart wrote:
JM explained this.
It isn't divided into 3. We get the Wakefield part and they get the area identified as Cas and Fev. So we have the major share.
We should have full points in this.

Hmm. Are you saying that what he said is right, and what was published yesterday in the Final version of Gradings Document yesterday on the RFL's official website is wrong?
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Hmm. Are you saying that what he said is right, and what was published yesterday in the Final version of Gradings Document yesterday on the RFL's official website is wrong?


I'm not saying that. JM updated on the back of his meeting with IMG so I've no reason to disbelieve him.

However, I'm not sure which bit you refer to so please hold the line caller while I check.
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That link doesn't work and I can't find anything on the site that's new.
So I remain to be convinced.
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https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... e-27256425

Sorry, try this one. The link is about halfway down the page
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Sorry, try this one. The link is about halfway down the page
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That link doesn't work and I can't find anything on the site that's new.
So I remain to be convinced.


captaincaveman cut and pasted the relevant section above.
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captaincaveman cut and pasted the relevant section above.


He does. But your statement that it is on the RFL website, seems to no longer be true. Which casts doubt.

I don't know either way, but as I said in my original post, JM told us it was being worked out in a different way, based on his meeting with IMG.
So to answer your question, I do believe him, but time has moved on since then and IMG may have changed the details.
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Using a LA boundary is a lazy inaccurate way of recording catchment area. I presume Batley and Dewsbury are split with Huddersfield even though they’re closer to Wakefield than Fev and cas are. Would be different if part of the same City or Town but we are all separate towns and Cities so what’s the point of having it as a criteria. Anyway if that’s how it’s going to be scored then it is what it is. It’s up to us to keep improving and get our IMG score as high as possible. Hopefully takeover will help us improve.

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